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Xeios You WANKER!         Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5104 days Last activity: 1414 days |
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| Drugs make you an idiot, why would anyone want to cloud their mind with an outside influence that makes them do stupid things and basically grate on everyone's nerves. I really wish that humanity had never decided to smoke the peace plant, or use any sort of easily acquirable euphorim-inducing drug. It just irritates me, watching people I respect(ed) get "high" and piss me off to no end. Is it a joke, are people just trying to fuck with me? Do they know that I hate something and then congregate while saying "Let's do this, it'll piss Chris off." I fucking hate Drugs, alcohol, and I want someone to shoot me if I ever do either of them to any sort of an extreme. Medicinal perscribed Drugs don't count, and alcohol in sparing conditions doesn't either.
Please, someone tell me what the fascination is with drugs? |
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Belial Bazu Since: 01-29-05 From: New Zealand Since last post: 4395 days Last activity: 4009 days |
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| Honestly, I couldn't tell you. You'd have to experience it yourself. It's a lil different for everyone.
I like to smoke weed every now and then. It loosens me up and, well, it makes me feel great. I like it. I don't do stupid things. I actually get a bit artistic. The only stupid thing I do sometimes is want to dance. The dance is interpretive, lol. My friend gave it a name XD Anyway, you're a serious person. I knew a serious person who smoked pot once and he was really... well, a lot more thoughtful and inspirational than when he was sober. 
Depends on the person. |
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venomouslobster Scarfy  Since: 05-03-05 From: california (knows how to party) Since last post: 6358 days Last activity: 5607 days |
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| let me start out by saying i do not take drugs, i smoked pot for a little while but i grew out of it
its human to want to not be yourself for a while, drugs tap into the exact same urge that roleplaying, videogames and any other form of entertainment fill. I know people on drugs that inspire me every day with revalations they had while using, and i also know people that irritate the living shit out of me. Frankly it seems that you are speaking out of ignorance (not saying that you are ignorant in general, just about drug culture and that is perfectly ok) and it is fine that you express your opinion but I assure you that you havent seen the full spectrum of what drugs can do and have done. If you really want to see what society would be like without the influence of drugs, then take all your cds that contain music written after 1900 (and also all the motzart and beethoven) and burn them. Do the same with about half your books but regarding dates between 1000 ad til now. Throw away your shakespeare, throw away marlowe, throw away, keats, proust, ginsberg, jack keruac. Without gruit (a hallucinagenic beer like substance made with bog myrtle and wild rosemary) the first book in english (canturbury tales) would never have existed. If you would like to see how life would be without the advent of alchohol, then i suggest you move to africa (far away from everyone else), take up residence in a cave, and live off of termites and bugs and small rodents (but not the kind that get you high...yes they exist) or what ever you can catch with your bare hands and sharpened sticks (no stone tools or traps of any kind, they were invented after fermentation was discovered) perhaps the people you know who are on drugs (i am guessing pot from your post) are just annoying when they are high...in which case they SHOULDNT smoke pot. Or they should just stop being annoying when they smoke pot, either way is good really. people should moderate all their habits and if they cross that line into abuse of those habits they should STOP them immediatly. EDIT: and one more thing....the following drugs ALWAYS do horrible evil things to people and should never be done by anyone who respects life: crystal meth heroin crack cocaine (and to a lesser extent) tobacco (Last edited by venomouslobster on 10-14-06 09:53 AM) |
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Kaijin Surohm Living the dream  Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 1707 days Last activity: 894 days |
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| Just to point out, Pot isn't a drug, it's an herb >.>
I use to work with a bunch of pot heads (among other things they did) and it truely did irritate me. They used pot as a substance to escape reality, and they wasted a crapload of money on it daily. I never did understand the need for pot, but then again I use video games to escape reality myself. A lot more cost effective then buying dope every day >.> Some people get inspired, the other majority get stoned, and stare off into space on their couch. That's why I laugh at ignorat commercials that show people getting stoned, then wigging out like they're on Acid. Pot is a relaxer, not a halluciant. I understand the concept of medical pot but meh. But yea, Xeios. From what yer sayin, your friends are pot heads because they like the feelign of being relaxed with aboslutely nothing around to faze them. There's nothign you can do for them if they refuse to listen. If that's the case, just take it by step, and when they light up, walk away. |
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AlpoRaggins Troubadour Not so much dead. Since: 12-11-04 From: Someday, Somewhere, Over the Rainbow Since last post: 6643 days Last activity: 6532 days |
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| This is strange, I was just having a conversation about this with Hobo...
I've never met a single person get 'inspired' by pot. I've met people who think that it would, and say "oh well, if you don't like pot, then you can't like any of your musicians you listen to because pretty much they use drugs to make those songs." Well, point one is that I'm not a rockstar. Point two is that, as respectable and awesome as they are, they're lives are much different than today's average drug user, and though artists are known to do drugs, it isn't what made them good. You don't need to do drugs to write songs like the Beatles. Those people had talent, drugs or no. Most kids who smoke pot, especially from where I live, are impressionable, run of the mill, people who buckle under peer pressure, have no personality, and don't know what to do with their spare time, and some think that doing drugs will make them creative. They can't admit to doing it just to perverse themselves in the feeling. I have more respect for the person who admits they do drugs for the sake of having fun then for the person who says they do it because it makes them more creative You don't have to enjoy drugs to enjoy work by people like Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg (which if you've actually read anything by them you'd know this). Just because they used drugs to create things doesn't mean that whoever is reading or viewing it has to do drugs to appreciate or fully comprehend their work. Drugs and art are known to coexist, but it isn't like the very best works of art have ALL stemmed from ideas brought on by drugs. Drugs are unneccessary; they may crack writers block but it tends to give people the false idea that they are creative. Most people don't realize that, if you're doing drugs to make something, then you absolutely need the talent and drive behind you to actual create. Pot won't make poems unless it's taken by a poet. I don't do drugs. I've been around people who do drugs, I've been with people when they did drugs, I've been offered, told that I should do them, but I never will. I've seen nothing come out of it. I don't need that day of feeling high to make me feel guilty. I don't do drugs, cause I don't want my parents or brother or sister to be ashamed of me, and since I have a concience I feel bad when I get pleasure at the cost of other people's pain in such a way. I have fun the way I am, and I think of it like this; when people say "oh, but you can't say anything because you don't know what it feels like"... yes. I do know what it feels like. I haven't gotten high off of illegal drugs, but I've had to take things because of my illness that put me into the same state. Granted I wasn't in a situation where it was recreational, but... meh, I know how it feels. I also think, you know, do you really need to know what it feels like to get high if you want to talk about it? Do you really have to get stabbed in the face to be able to tell how painful it is? Do you have to get into a car accident to tell what happens? So why do people pressure others to do this thing that's detrimental to their mind? That's what it really is; everyone who's done pot is going to say "UGH NO ITS NOT" because they did it, and they know this is true, but they don't want to admit it because it's something they've done that's illegal and they feel the need to make it look more benevolent than it really is. There is a REASON to why drugs are taboo and illegal, to why if you do them you're only respected by the other people who do them. Because it's a sad community of escapists, with one artist out of a million stoners. Why, just like how there's one artist out of a million people! Pot doesn't do anything. It gets you high. It makes you giggle and eat a lot. It makes certain people comfortable with you, it makes many more uncomfortable if they find out you do it. It's something for the bored to immerse themselves in. Like TV, and the internet, but with much, much worse repercussions. There's no real way to glorify pot and it's properties; try as you might, it just isn't true. It isn't what made culture; people are what made it, not the drugs they took. Xeios, don't give into pressure. You're a better person if you do it then you don't. You don't need to jeopardize your innocence and mind for a moment of selfish indulgence. Same thing all applies to drinking too. |
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The Accidental Protege Iggy Koopa I\"m your accidental protege... The gift, the blood, the thrownaway...\" Since: 03-08-05 From: Marching on the city of Southern Cross Since last post: 1196 days Last activity: 1196 days |
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| There was an old saying in my High School: Pot won't kill you; the stupid shit you do after you smoke it will.
I smoke pot in the safety and security of my friend's house, and it's not every day, or even every week. More like once a month, actually 
It really mellows you down and makes you feel really happy. I don't feel any less smart, and I never did anything to abuse it. I'd never do anything outside of pot, either (well, I DO wanna try shrooms). I feel really insightful sometimes when I'm high, but also just plain stupid, too
Oh, and driving while high? Not hard at all. I've done it many times. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 130 days Last activity: 130 days |
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| Alpo, I think the point about the artists from before was not that you have to be on drugs to appriciate them, but that they were known drug users. But anywho...
I drink, that's it. I don't smoke or do any drugs (tried noz, but that is it). Why? Don't want to. People have offered it to me before, but typically they understand and respect my refusal. Is it that they do it around you that bothers you or that they do it at all? If it is the former, then talk to them and explain that it makes you very uncomfortable when they do that and to please stop. If it is just that they do it in general, then there is not much that you can do other than hope they realize their foolishness. |
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Logos Again? Banned  Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6134 days Last activity: 6225 days |
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| Personally, I don't think that anyone on the board knows enough about the chemical nature of drugs to judge if they have any net effect on genius. Or do very many people in the world, in fact.
But I'm pretty sure that Mozart was a genius from childhood, and wasn't a child drug abuser or alcoholic. I don't think I would do what anyone considers "drugs" and I don't have the intent of doing alcohol or smoking or any of that stuff, and I can completely symphatize with anyone who is bothered by those who would pressure or do it nearby. But, I think that that's their choice, if they aren't bothering anyone else by their actions, it's up to them. For example, someone wouldn't be entitled to drink alcohol and then drive, because they are endangering the lives of other drivers. |
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Kaijin Surohm Living the dream Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 1707 days Last activity: 894 days |
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| Looking over this, I forgot to mention on very little thing.
Over the years, the effects of pot have been strengthend through alteration. The modern day pot is roughly 50x stronger then what it use to be way back with mozart and the rest of them. Back then, smoking it was a mild relaxent that helped you think, and you could contimplate pretty much anything. Now if you smoke it, your ganna get stoned hard. So, yea. |
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venomouslobster Scarfy Since: 05-03-05 From: california (knows how to party) Since last post: 6358 days Last activity: 5607 days |
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| motzart didnt smoke pot, he drank wood alchohol. pot didnt become popular until the late 1800's and even then people chewed it. (fun fact: wood alchohol puts holes in your brain, makes you blind and makes you hallucinate....until it eventually kills you!) | |||
Pockets Werewolf pockets Since: 10-20-04 Since last post: 5121 days Last activity: 4637 days |
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| Venomous's point about throwing out the books and cd's wasn't about if you
don't do drugs you can't appreciate the material, it was more answering the question of what would society be like WITHOUT the use of any drugs at all. I've done pot on a few occasions, maybe a little more than a few. I smoke cigarettes and I drink on occasion. I like to smoke, (cigarettes) I like to drink, in moderation. Weed can also be a lot of fun. I have found however that if I've been drinking and I cough from weed smoke I WILL be violently ill. High as a kite but ill. The coolest thing to me about weed is almost everything is funny. If one is cautious about one's recreational pursuits than all's good. Just like alcohol though anything taken to excess is bad. I have only once ever been what I would call HAMMERED. Just flat out drunker than any human being should ever be. I can't remember about 6 hours of that night. (my 21st birthday by the way.) I still enjoy getting drunk on occasion. I never drink with the purpose of getting drunk but if I happen to get a little messed up it's all fun as long as I'm with friends that can help. |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5104 days Last activity: 1414 days |
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| Well, now that it's a few days later, I'm a bit more calmed down and not on a Crusade against Drugs anymore. I still hate them, but that's not something that was recently brought into my mind. And I was not really writing about other "friends" who pressure me into getting high and doing drugs. I was more talking about people on this board who have recently done things on drugs that pissed me off, and I realized how much the drugs were to blame.
Sorry for not really saying that at the beginning. |
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Ryan Ptooie Is back!   Since: 10-01-04 From: Stafford, UK Since last post: 4674 days Last activity: 4634 days |
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| Drugs are the things I am making sure I stay well away from.
One of my friends is going on about buying some LSD from someone he knows. If he does, me and my friends already have a plan to piss him off while under its influence. But yeah, I can't understand drugs or why people take them. True it might give you the feeling of happiness or something but only for a short while, then the depression after makes you want more. Oh, can someone tell me if smoking weed is healthier than smoking cigarettes? Not that I'm going to ever smoke either, just curious to know if it's true or not... |
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venomouslobster Scarfy Since: 05-03-05 From: california (knows how to party) Since last post: 6358 days Last activity: 5607 days |
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| number one: leave the guy on acid alone...if you ruin the trip it could freak him out and give him the worst nightmare he has ever had.
number two: smoking marijuana is generally more heathsome than cigarettes but mainly because due to its four hour active period the smoking itself happens less often than most cigarette users smoke. |
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Makura Since: 01-22-05 From: The restaurant at the end of the universe.... Since last post: 5917 days Last activity: 5182 days |
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| I really don't think that drugs make you an idiot. I mean anything cna make someone an idiot if their irresponsible enough. That's like saying sex makes you an idiot.
I don't do drugs anymore. I've never smoke marijauna, but I dabbled in crystal meth for a sixth month long period or so. I'd say if you can use every once in a while without making it a life style and it being a frenzied addiction, drugs are occassionaly fun. I mean I come from a history of drugs and alcohol. I don't believe that it's the drugs, but the people who give drugs a bad name. |
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Pockets Werewolf pockets Since: 10-20-04 Since last post: 5121 days Last activity: 4637 days |
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Originally posted by AlpoRaggins Out of curiousity, do you have something personal against alcohol? Not attacking or something I'm honestly curious, you seem rather vehement towards that as a bad thing. Personally I've had some bad experiences with booze. Not of my own though. More watching my ex fiance get so shit faced hammered that passed out on my bathroom floor she stopped breathing a time or too. (that might have been her sleep apnia though) Seen people do some really stupid and hurtful stuff, usually to me while hammered out of their minds. On my end I don't think I've done anything dumb while drinking, aside from starting a sparring match with staff's where I ended up slightly wounded. The problem is finding that happy medium of enough drink to get buzzed and silly and have fun with your friends but not enough to get down and miserable and drunkely beligerent which some don't understand. Also a warning to all who may drink in the future. Drinking doesn't change your mood. If your in a good mood when you start drinking you'll be in a GREAT mood after you have been for a while. Inversely, if you're in a bad mood you will be in a much worse mood. Main reason why I NEVER drink when I'm mad. I would get pretty violent I think. |
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Makura Since: 01-22-05 From: The restaurant at the end of the universe.... Since last post: 5917 days Last activity: 5182 days |
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| I have to agree with you on that one, Pockets. Alcohol doesn't change your mood. I am notorious for drinking alone when I'm depressed and it doesn't make me feel any better it just makes me want t odo so what I do is drink enough to make me fall asleep.
Drugs are the same way. They do not alter your mood. I mean at least not with me, but I think everyone is different and every drug is different. |
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