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| Xeogaming Forums - Debate Shrine - Pledge of Allegiance: Should it be removed from classrooms? |
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renewed_soul_rocker Merchant          Since: 09-07-05 Since last post: 7000 days Last activity: 6964 days |
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| I would say it should stay not because if the religous stuff but because its a symbol of our American heritage. And thats the way they wrote it so i think it should stay that way. And if people don't like it when why don't have to say it. | |||
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01001000 Slow Ride Take It Easy  Since: 01-10-05 Since last post: 6527 days Last activity: 5877 days |
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| rocker, "Under God" was added in the 50's when we were fighting the godless communistic Russia, that is the only reason. | |||
avatar of law Beezo  Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5767 days Last activity: 5767 days |
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| and might i add, i've already put up the original pledge in my previous post...
ppl just dont read these days -.-' |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 100 days Last activity: 100 days |
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Originally posted by HoboConductor This is my favorite thing to point out to people in this argument, especially ones that start saying "it's always been there, it should stay" It's amazing how fast they shut up when you point that out. My mom tried to continue, saying that she remembered it always being there (my mom was 11 in 1950); but even she admitted defeat there when I backed it up with documented evidence. |
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The Accidental Protege Iggy Koopa I\"m your accidental protege... The gift, the blood, the thrownaway...\" Since: 03-08-05 From: Marching on the city of Southern Cross Since last post: 1166 days Last activity: 1166 days |
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| You know what? I don't think that this nation should be united under "God", it should be united under the values of love and peace. Not a deity. Not everyone believes in God. Many people belive in Allah, or Ganesh, or The Goddess, or no deity at all. | |||
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01001000 Slow Ride Take It Easy Since: 01-10-05 Since last post: 6527 days Last activity: 5877 days |
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| Clockworkz, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Allah mean God, and thus christianity and muslim share the same deity? | |||
geeogree Ninji Since: 10-19-04 Since last post: 5175 days Last activity: 268 days |
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| technically they don't..... although the differences aren't large in number.... the main difference being that Jesus was just a prophet and not the savior of the world.... and not God in human flesh. | |||
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 100 days Last activity: 100 days |
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| No, it is the same god. This is the basics of Islamic belief as far as that goes:
They believe that Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad were the prophets of Allah (which is their word for God). Each prophet reveled part of His message to his people. Mohammad brought the final piece of God's will to the people, but the Christians and the Jews did not want to hear this message because they did not believe that this was a true prophet (just as the Jews also did not accept Jesus's teachings). Muslims believe that they have the complete message, and thusly view the other two groups as sub-par (but they outright hate Pagans traditionally). But yeah, there goes the whole Allah vs God and the whole Jesus is a prophet thing. |
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MurdockDeNoss Dragon Fly Since: 09-19-05 From: Woodlawn, TN Since last post: 6039 days Last activity: 5977 days |
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| I grew up with doing this. Basicly its done in grade school and slowly fades away after that because like all things we learn in grade school in the USA is done this way for repitition. We learn things via repitition so when we grow up in the USA that is the work force. Think about this a moment:
Day starts to a alarm; We get up bathe; Go to School/Work; Spend up to 8 hours a day at School/Work; Come home; Have very little time to ourselves; Feel like shit from School/Work; Bathe and sleep; Day starts again and goes through the above; Now how many of you see the pattern here. I read about this in a Military Book for the Marines a few years back. The man reason for the Pledge of Allegiance was so children wouldn't for get about the Ideals such as Loyalty, Faith and the such. |
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