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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath          Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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| Well Shuyin, that's kind of what they are now. It's just that I think the names tend to make them confusing. My suggestion is to perhaps keep the 'belt ranking system' but change the names as to reflect what they represent in a fighter. | |||
Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3966 days Last activity: 3873 days |
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Originally posted by Sparda Indeed. I think all of the belts are overall thought as a measure of skill. Lightweight Belt- Newb King. MiddleWeight- Average Fighter HeaveyWeight- Fear me rawr. |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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Originally posted by ShuyinOriginally posted by Sparda The "Fear Me Rawr" one is genius.  
I think the "Legends Title" we can keep the same because that sort of says something about the person who owns it. You know? |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1547 days Last activity: 1547 days |
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Originally posted by Shuyin Prediction or not, I know he is underestimating which kinda piss me off to know that he said it WAY too soon. A simple prediction? Bah... I'm sick of this prediction... This is worse as judging people... And as for the belt: How about this: We toss out Heavyweight, Middleweight, and Lightweight. That is the thing we bother so much that doesn't have any meaning anymore... And add some customs rules and make it interesting to earn those belt. Here is what I got (and some examples of) : Melee Belt - Anyone who used direct weapon (spear, sword, mace, etc. except for ranged weapon like gun, bow, etc.) will be tested here. Who ever survived the most without using magic or magic-related attack win. Archsage's Belt - Magic attack, defense, etc. only. No weapon, no gun (unless it shoot magic out of it. No physical damages though!) Anything magical related is legal but fighting fist to fist or melee combat is illegal. Ancient's Belt (seeing how Leon have it already started) - Basically, free-for-all battle. This rewards for fighting under the same rules and giving their best. Legend's Belt - Same rules, but one person (have to be a local mod or someone you and your opponet can agree with) will have to use one post that do the environment change. Similar to Sparda's Legend Tournament rules. There may be a Adventure Belt or something I want to try... Basically... This belt is going to be based on difficulty. Same rules, but HOWEVER... The belt wielder can bypass ONE rule beside full-healing (50% healing only) and auto-kill (which will be cheap) once. If he break two rules, the belt-wielder will be DQ and the new wielder can use it once in each battle. Because the heavyweight, middleweight, and lightweight seem hardly focus on their area now, seeing how it could be mistaken for stuff. |
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Leviathan Magician  Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5541 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| I gave my predictions based only on the sims/characters posted in this forum. I'm not going to rant about my experience or any such thing..i'm simply going to say that they were based on general observations, and may VERY WELL be wrong. No insult was meant to anyone.
Shanan...though my vote doesn't count for much 'round these parts, you have it for every idea you posted. The Adventure Belt DOES have a bit of potential for abuse, however. |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1547 days Last activity: 1547 days |
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Originally posted by Leviathan I agree... but this is for anyone who (even a newbies) lacks certain experience on: "Nope, I don't take any damages." "My armor reflect back at you and you kill yourself! ROFLMAO!" "Nuh-huh... I am too fast and I attack you before you attack me! LOLZ!!!111!!oneoneone!" This is kinda ONE reason I want to see as least one rule get broken once. However, let say if I auto-attack you twice, that mean you are the official winner because I broke two rules. It doesn't matter if I broke one rule, the other auto-attack rule is used against me. Auto-kill? That count for both auto-hit AND auto-kill. Plus this is a "higher ranking" belt, seeing how that one person can break one rule and you have to fight against him. It may sounded hard, but this also provided two things: Hard Difficulty and Idiot-proof who think we deversed to win easy by "dodging every attack, absording every attack, etc." because this belt needed difficulty to show that you can't alway evade everyone action. Don't forget... this is a higher difficulty ranking now... Oh, here is another belt I thought of: Seeing how summoning is illegal to use, maybe we should have summoned tag team belt. Same rules (except for the summoning) , and here how it work: One sim-battlers will control two battlers. One is for themselves and the other one is for their summoned creature. Since you are controlling TWO actions, you need to post for BOTH of them at the same time. If one of your character is defeated, game over. And if you opponent didn't mention anything about one's person or creature action, BAM! You get to auto-hit them without any exception. (Don't forget... That only work if and ONLY IF your opponent didn't mention ANYTHING about whom action is done.) Example: Let say... If I am fighting Night and his summoned creature, I used two characters against them in order to play with Summoned Tag Team. Night attack me and so his summoned creature attack my summoned creature. And if I said that Beowulf dodges the attack and said nothing about my summoned creature, Night's summoned creature get to auto-hit my creature to see how that my creature "stood there". Don't forget, we need to make the belt somewhat easy or harder to get since everyone can just say: "I am so god-like." Here is my ranking opinion on (new?) Belt Ranking: Ancient Belt Tag Team Belt Melee Belt, Archsage Belt... (same slot, since similar rules) Legend Belt Adventure Belt Summon Tag Team Belt. The Lightweight, Middleweight, and the Heavyweight belt doesn't seem to influence much on the board, you know? I guess it is just me but it doesn't seem to be doing much seeing how that everyone can challenge their belt for "fun". |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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| About the whole Summoner's Tag Team thing...
I believe it was Shuyin and I that kind of started the thing here on XGF where we introduced a single person controlling two characters at once on the battlefield. Back a while ago, I wanted to introduce this as an official style of simbattling on MoD but I'm not sure what happened but it never came through. So instead of Summoner's tag team", why not just do the "Ultimate Summoner Title" where a person uses only his or her summon as the fighter in a simbattle. And you can also have the "Special Tag Team Title" or something like that where instead of 4 people duking it out, you only have two real people using two people each. It's like a regular simbattle but with more 'characters in play'. (Last edited by Sparda on 08-04-05 01:32 PM) |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1547 days Last activity: 1547 days |
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Originally posted by Sparda Two things: Because of the Ultimate Summoner Title, what happened if someone would put out a exact copy of them (fighting pattern, different look and the like) and made up of excuse that the summoner cast up-shield or anything that prevent their summoner to get damages? And the "Special Tag Team Title?" Sure, slap on the Legend rules and you get "Legend Tag Team Title". With the environment change... |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3966 days Last activity: 3873 days |
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Originally posted by ShananOriginally posted by Sparda Well the first concern isn't that big of a deal. Though I don't see anything wrong with it, if need be, we can just set a rule concerning using two similiar characters. I didn't understand the 2nd problem.  |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1547 days Last activity: 1547 days |
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| Oop... Look like I need to fix that... (I was overthinking and I mix up my wording.)
Anyway... The 2nd problem was about... Suppose say the summoner enter the arena and summoned their creature. But since both summoners and creature would have "magic", it would be really stupid to have the summoners cast defensive magic (that negates any offensive magic) on his or her creature, and the creature would attack the summoner's opponent while he is just standing there. Heck, for all that matter, how do we know if those creatures decided to hit on the opponent summoner and they were both being cheap by casting the ultimate cheap bitch spell on themselves to avoid more damages and countering each action? Beside, what is the fun if it just summoned creature that can only fight? Why not 1 v.s. 1 with two characters to control? Just having a regular summoning battle is like fighting with your own character. It tends to lose the "cooliness" after that. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3966 days Last activity: 3873 days |
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Well the only answer to those points is common sense. What's to say that two people can't do the very same thing in a tag battle? Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it won't be punished. |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5076 days Last activity: 1386 days |
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| Maybe something like,
Master Belt Grand Master Belt Supreme Grand Master Belt And then, Legends Title Ancients Title Tag-Team Title Other assorted rank title. This way, Each fighter could only have ONE belt, but as many titles as they wanted to have. That way it would be fair to everyone... |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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Originally posted by Sparda I don't really think so... I mean, Benja is pretty damn near human for the most part... Middleweight at best. People like Vel or me or you or Leon would be more in the Heavyweight area. |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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| Well you should keep in mind that it was I who had the heavyweight before him. Because I retired, I simply gave it back to the former heavyweight cause I figured it wouldn't be long before somebody won the title from Benja....
One year has passed and that still hasn't happened which surprises me greatly. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3966 days Last activity: 3873 days |
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Originally posted by Sparda What's the surprise? He won't accept/finish any challenges for his belt. 
People just stopped bothering. Remember what we were saying......he's the Hercule of the board.  |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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Originally posted by ShuyinOriginally posted by Sparda And I'm Goku. Rawr. 
I get stronger and stronger.... And even when I die (retire) I still manage to come back .Fear my l33t skills. ^.^ And I apparently never age. I only get younger. 
But *cough* But recently, new rules for belts have been set up. Therefore, now Benja would have to accept...wouldn't he? |
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Leviathan Magician Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5541 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| Won't finish his fights?
I can't take him on..i plan on winning the tourny title (happens to be the reason i never did anything with that fight Kai..i never managed to PM you about it). Sparda..why not come out of retirement and take the damned thing back. Show these guys how it's done. |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5076 days Last activity: 1386 days |
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| Yes, come out of retirement and kick some ass. Teach Benja that he does not deserve the belt.
Anyway, If you take it back and retire again, (who are you Micheal Jordan?) you can give it to the person you consider the greatest battler on here. Oh, and I still think that belts and titles should be considered two different things. I don't think there should be a restriction on having a belt and a title. For instance, If I have the middleweight belt, I could also have the Legends title, or Tag Team champ title. Just not the heavy or lightweight belts. |
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Leviathan Magician Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5541 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| Okay...so i'm being selfish. I honestly just want to fight him.
It would definately be an interesting title bout. Two belts on the line...the winner takes one of his choosing, and distributes the other how he sees fit. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3966 days Last activity: 3873 days |
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| That 'Tag Champ' title is more of a belt.......well that's what it was created as. |
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