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Leviathan Magician          Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5542 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| 37 dead.
You're kidding. These days, a number like that is hardly news worthy. They killed 37 people...and? How many people died that day from car accidents? ODs? Unrelated murders? Jesus...37 people is NOTHING. It is insignificant. When they take out 25,000 in one fell swoop, THEN i'll bother taking note. Until then..why are you all so worked up about this? |
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Originally posted by Leviathan Your way of thinking sucks. It's not the number that matters, it's how innocent people were killed. Like how civilans in war get killed. WHO CARES ABOUT NUMBERS. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Leviathan Magician Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5542 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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Innocent people die every day. It is a simple fact of life. Accidents..murders..suicide..disease..we are human. We die. It is one of the things we're especially good at. And yet you have people who stop to feel bad about THIS sort of thing. Guess what? Chances are, you don't have much time left yourself. Stop wasting it feeling sorrow over an absolutely INSIGNIFICANT loss of life. (Last edited by Leviathan on 07-22-05 03:38 AM) |
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| So to you, every life is insignificant? Don't get me wrong, I don't exactly feel sorrow. But I prefer to defend those people than having someone say that someone dying of something like that is 'nothing'. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Leviathan Magician Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5542 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| Yes. In the grand scheme of things, a life holds no importantance. Neither do 37. Or a hundred. Or a thousand. There are well over 6 billion people on this planet. We are like..ants. A few losses mean nothing, save for to the families of those lost. And even then..grief means little to those still alive, eh? They usually get over it.
And before you say anything..yes, i have lost people who were very dear to me. I grieved..i moved on. Thus is life. |
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| I'm not saying to even cry or something.
I'm just saying to "not spit on those people's grave". I've seen my father die before my eyes (God, how many times do I have to use this exemple). Never did I cry (I never hated him). I only respected him as someone who died. I won't be sad, I'll just "respect the dead". | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Savedox Berserker You put a bullet in my head, Till black turns to red! This could all end in tragedy!  Since: 08-20-04 From: Read \"Real Name\" Since last post: 4547 days Last activity: 1635 days |
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| It really gives me a sickening feeling reading the things that you are saying Leviathan. I have to agree with Strange Deja Vu on this one. Everytime i find out someone die its like punch to the stomach. Inocent people die who could have made our lives a better place in the long run. And when you pretty much slap everyone of those familys who lost a family member in that attack or anything else for that matter. Its like a slap to the face. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BBQMissile ChaoticDeath  Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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| But the truth of the matter is...Leviathan has no reason to care. He was not really affected by the attacks. The deaths of these people have nothing to do with him. It's not like he knew these people. Why should he grieve for people he never even met or seen before? To him, it's like grieving for every single animal that dies. It's just not going to happen because some people just don't give a fuck.
Personally, I find that perfectly understandable. In the end, however, most people will forget everything about these people because these deaths didn't effect them at all. What really matters, in my opinion, is what countries as a whole will do about these deaths. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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| For the record, it was over 50 people that died. Also, there was another attack today... no one was killed this time though.
You know, I am going to sound a bit odd here, but I don't care. When 9/11 happened, I didn't give a rats ass. I lost no one, I didn't care at all. In my eyes it was the governement messing up. A year later I watched footage from the attacks, and only then did I appriciate the horror of that day and respect the innocent lives that were lost. London had no warning, no idea that it would happen. They were lucky that so few people died, since so many people ride the tubes daily... and I am sure that the terrorists that planned the attack ment to kill more than they did. I cared about the attacks in London as soon as I heard about it. Why? Because I learned to respect the sadness of the loss of an innocent life to senseless violence and I also recognized that they ment to kill many more than they managed to. These attacks, and these deaths effect us all even if we don't want them to. How? These deaths reflect upon the fact that there is something seriously wrong in human society, which is something that all humanity needs to notice. In the end, it is not about the number of people that died, but how they died and more importantly why they died. |
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Reno Since: 07-18-05 From: Above the Law. Since last post: 7055 days Last activity: 6908 days |
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| The English deserve to have shit blown up in their own country, but not from the Arabs. If the Irish came in and wiped out 4 million of 'em at once, it'd be pay back for the genocide.
Irish Population before the 'famine': 8 million. Irish Population now: 5 million. What does that tell you about what England thinks about other nations? My opinion is, the English deserved it, but it was the wrong people that did the job. |
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Leviathan Magician Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5542 days Last activity: 5453 days |
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| You know..i'm starting to like this Sparda guy.
He's damned close to being right. I find it a waste of emotion (a rather unpleasant emotion at that). 50 people just don't MEAN anything. Someone dies on this planet every..what..3 seconds? More than 50 people died in the time it would take to read this thread. There is ALWAYS a loss of life. It is one of the immutable facts of existance. Some terrorists killed fifty people..so? Hundreds of thousands die daily. 100,000 - 50 = 99,950. Wow...at least 99 thousand other people died that day. See my point? People die. Constantly. Yet some people decide to stop and grieve when they see a handful of lives lost on the news. It just makes no damned sense. |
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| "One death is a tragedy. A hundred deaths is a statistic."
Suprisingly, I find myself agreeing with this quote as well as some of the things Leviathan has said. Personally, I do not find a reason to grieve for people on the news. I mean, say a little girl has been kidnapped and been killed by some psycho. I wouldn't say to myself "Oh my god, how sad!! This is just terrifying and heart wrenching!". Instead, I'm more likely to go "Oh. That's too bad." Cold as it may seem, it's simply not worth your time to grieve for every single tragedy that occurs in the world. There's too many. Now watching the news talking about the deaths in London...well, personally, I didn't really care. Ok. People died. Move on. Instead of thinking "Oh man, this is just horrible!! I can't believe they would do something like this!", I went "...Crap. Does this mean they're going to do the same in NY?". Grieving just wasn't my thing because 1) I didn't know these people...at all and 2) How does their death concern me at all? In response to Elara's statement.. With all due respect, I personally disagree with it. I don't think its a matter of how or why they died. It's what you plan to do about it as a response to those deaths. EDIT: Give this incident one week and everyone will forget about it. Remember the Tsunami in India? Notice how nobody no longer cares about it? I mean, what about all the AID victims in Africa? The poverty in certain parts of China? The constant killings in the Middle East? Truth is, after just a couple of days to a couple of weeks, no one's going to care anymore. (Last edited by Sparda on 07-24-05 11:52 PM) |
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| That is just the problem, no one can seem to agree one what to do about it. Politicians are just using these attacks to try and get more power for their own party. They don't care about doing anything about it, they only care about themselves.
People died because humans are idiots and can't seem to bring themselves to see anyone else's point of view but their own! Idiot #1: I don't like these people because they are different than me, so I'm going to blow them up. Idiot #2: That guy just blew us up... we don't like him now, so we are going to go blow up him and his people. Idiot #3: You shouldn't do that, you need to understand why they are doing it. Idiot #2: Shut up, you're just a fucking coward! *blows up Idiot #1* Idiot #1: Fuckers. See, you attacked us... we will kill you all! *blows up Idiots #2 and #3* Idiot #2: How dare they attack us! Idiot #3: You're just going to make it worse if you continue. Idiot #2: *fights with #3 then bombs #1* Voice of reason: This is just the start of a vicious cycle, there are other ways if you use your brains. Idiots #1,2 and 3: *too busy fighting and blowing each other up to notice* |
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