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Rogue
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Posted on 06-24-07 10:10 PM Link | Quote
If I remember correctly Jason Lee named his son "Pilot Inspektor." *Shrugs*

Article: http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/new-zealand-judge-blocks-name-for-baby/20070624111209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


New Zealand Judge Blocks Name for Baby
ABC News
Posted: 2007-06-24 14:05:57


(June 23) - Actress Gwyneth Paltrow named her baby after a fruit, Apple. Comedian Penn Jillette chose Moxie Crimefighter for his spunky daughter. And while unusual names may be a Hollywood staple, some believe it may cross the line in the real world.

One New Zealand judge even blocked one family from using the name it chose. The judge said the name was unfair to the child.

"Initially, the reaction is, 'Are you for real?'" said Pat Wheaton, the New Zealand father who was blocked from naming his son 4Real.

Wheaton said the idea for the name came when the couple saw the first scan of the child.

"We started thinking 'Jeez, he is for real?'" Wheaton said.

But when the parents filed the name with New Zealand's Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, they were told names beginning with a number were against the rules.

Registrar-General Brian Clarke said the rules are designed to prevent names that are "likely to cause offense to a reasonable person."

The Wheaton's idea for a name came naturally, but many parents are feeling the pressure to be different.

Baby naming is big business today. Some parents are turning to professional consultants, computer programs, polls and even numerologists to achieve the perfect moniker for their bundle of joy.

"Parents think that if they give their child a unique and special name, the child will become unique and special," said Bruce Lansky, author of "100,000 Baby Names."

Nevaeh, which heaven spelled backwards, has become one of the world's most popular names. But others don't always pass the societal test.

Two boys, one in Michigan and the other in Texas, bear the name ESPN. They were named after the sports network.

In some countries, names are illegal -- like Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Laden in Germany.

And French parents must choose from an approved list. The laws are designed to prevent teasing.

In America, almost anything goes.

"You can't use a four letter word that I wouldn't use in this interview anyway, and other than that you're free to do what you want," said New York University Sociology Department Chairman Dalton Conley. "That's part of the first amendment right to free speech here in America."

Only as the children grow up will people learn if these interesting names will be the source of ridicule.

Information from the Associated Press was also used in this story.

Copyright 2007 ABCNEWS.com



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NUCKLEARKNIGHT

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Posted on 06-25-07 04:06 AM Link | Quote
I'm not sure if I would want to be named 4real. Probably not. If it's because a number is in front than it's legitimate.
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Posted on 06-25-07 11:46 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NUCKLEARKNIGHT
If it's because a number is in front than it's legitimate.

Agreed. Why would you want to have a number in your name?
Genome

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Since: 04-24-07
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Posted on 06-26-07 02:30 AM Link | Quote
Ya know, if you want your babies name to be something "original", don't use numerals, because it's just confusing and pointless. Four real.... pssh!
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Posted on 06-26-07 02:43 AM Link | Quote
I mean atleast it isn't a symbol you know like prince

there's a dj named

I WANNA SEE A KID NAMED I wonder how that's pronounced O.o
z33r0

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Posted on 06-26-07 08:55 PM Link | Quote
if they were so amazed by the miracle of life that they wanted to name their child "for real?" they maybe could think of a better way of getting that in, ie: not spelling it like an eleven year old girl on msn messenger.

the nice thing about language is that for any combination of consonants and vowel sounds there are likely more than three different ways of spelling said combination[with the exception of short or single-letter words.. but even then i, eye, ai, aye]

they could have just figured out a different way of spelling for real? like forriel, foryelle, foureil or something and everyone would have just thought "wow what a beautiful and creative name, I wonder what part of sri lanka it comes from.." instead they just looked kind of silly...
Even then of course, the kid would constantly be getting misspronunciation and "how do you spell that?" and comments about what an interesting name it is. People constantly misspronounce, misspell, comment on, and ask about my name, I hate it, it's amazing how difficult a six letter word can be to pronounce, and its not even that complex or exotic, like siobhan or something, it should be really straight foreward but nooooooooooooooo.

but as much as I hate MY name, if my parents had named/tried to name me 4real, I would cut their throats as soon as I was old enough to hold a knife. Not because it has a number in it, more because of the way the number is used to represent a set of letters. Names done in l337, that'd be pretty cool. I think I'll go get my name legally changed to z33r0, somewhere that it's legal..

speaking of which, if you're born in a country where it's legal to use numbers and your parents do, then you try to move somewhere that it isn't, what do they do with you? say someone named their kid adolph hitler[for whatever reason] and that person went to a country where it was not legal to be thusly named? man, people who are named things like hitler must take a lot of shit for it, and it wouldn't even be their fault. shit, why are we letting people like this have children?


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Van Rhanell

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Posted on 06-28-07 12:55 AM Link | Quote
Frank Zappa named his kids Dweezil, Moon Unit, Ahmet, and Diva. Those names I can live with because they aren't expressions, and don't include numbers. On another note, 4Real would be a sweet name because it technically comes before everything alphabetically :p I think this guy will end up changing his mind sometime in his life, or the child will realize that having a good name for a rapper is rather uncouth if he plans on working/socializing and change it..

"what's your name?"
"4real"
"what? Did you just try to complete my sentence?"
"no man! my name is 4real"
"well obviously it's not because I haven't heard it yet"
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Posted on 06-28-07 05:15 PM Link | Quote
Well it should be a parent's right to name their child anything they wanted to, but they should think about the child's future in depth and seriously instead of going with the moment. Yet a lot of parents do it anyways so it's a good thing that these kinds of departments are preventing as much teasing and bullying as possible. -__- I sure know that I would hate to have a name like 4Real or ESPN. Neveah is a nice name though.
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Posted on 07-01-07 02:31 PM Link | Quote
Honestly, I think that there is a time in which parents shouldn't be allowed to do that.

But I'm honestly not taking a side here, jsut thinking that parents should care about their children and name then something that won't embarass them.
Rogue
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Posted on 07-02-07 10:42 AM Link | Quote
There are times when the names people give their kids are cool and innovative (while still tasteful), but then there are times when it's simply ridiculous.

Auctioning off the right to name your child on E*Bay would probably not be the way to go.
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Posted on 07-15-07 11:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Vulkar
But I'm honestly not taking a side here, jsut thinking that parents should care about their children and name then something that won't embarass them.


That's what parents are for, to embarass you infront of your friends and, in some cases, to complete and total strangers.

Calling your child 4real would probably cause them a lot of trouble in terms of bullying... It'd also look very UNreal when applying for anything like a job...
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Posted on 07-15-07 12:45 PM Link | Quote
What ever happened to normal names, like Brian, Amber, Steve, Evan, Lauren, and the like? Why do people insist on getting a few cheap laughs at the inevitable expense of their child?

I'm taking the judge's side on this.


Only as the children grow up will people learn if these interesting names will be the source of ridicule.


Um, no, I'm pretty sure we can tell you the answer to that one right now.


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Rogue
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Posted on 08-09-07 04:56 PM Link | Quote
Ah, but the plot thickens. The parents have now decided that since they can't name their child "4Real" they're naming him Superman.

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/is-it-a-bird-is-it-a-plane-no-its-a-baby/20070808153409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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Posted on 08-10-07 04:56 AM Link | Quote
... I'm sorry, that is just stupid. I like unique names and all, but only if they are tasteful. 4real and Superman are decidedly not tasteful in any since of the word. They want something cool, try a different spelling of a normal name! It's what my parents did... my name is spelled Crystle Lea instead of Crystal Lee/Leigh. I had a good friend for awhile whose name is Rebekah. Hell, my cousin's name is Bryan! There are ways to have your child's name be special without making them a subject of ridicule for the rest of their lives!
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