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Xeogaming Forums - Debate Shrine - If Imus was black, there would be no controversy about his "racist" remarks | | | |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 929 days |
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Read the title.
Discuss. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2483 days Last activity: 1333 days |
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No shit.
It's only racist when it's a white guy, usually. |
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Logos Again? Banned Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6107 days Last activity: 6198 days |
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What about if minorities and women received the same wages as white males? O= | |||
Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 103 days Last activity: 103 days |
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Then the world would be a better place. However it wouldn't stop shit like this from happening. But yes, I agree... well, there might be a bit of an issue over the "ho" part; but not nearly as much. | |||
Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4560 days Last activity: 4553 days |
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Was he that Radio Talk show host that called the Women's New York basketball team "Nappy Headed Hoes"?
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Cairoi This isn't about you and your loud mouth, This is about me and my fucking beard. Since: 08-29-04 From: PA Since last post: 4851 days Last activity: 4475 days |
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Yeah.
The world is too serious. I hate it. |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 929 days |
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And now he's fired. It's ridiculous.
I don't really see how his remarks were racist though. There are both white and black girls on the team (unless he was referring to only those on the court at the time the remarks were made). |
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Logos Again? Banned Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6107 days Last activity: 6198 days |
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I think this is more of an issue of position in society. Blacks and Hispanics and women, even, are effectively treated as second-class citizens. There isn't too much effort for reform and changing this, but society still frowns upon kicking someone--or even some peoples--who are already down.
To provide an alternative non-race example, consider a classroom. As many of you may know, there are these things called tests. And oftentimes, there is a good part of the class who bomb these tests. It doesn't sound rude at all for one "bomber" to joke to another how awfully the other did on the test, with the mutual understanding that neither of them is in a better position. But if someone aces the test, and then does the same to someone who flunked it, it might easily be construed as quite offensive, because of the discrepancy between the two parties. Sound plausible? |
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geeogree Ninji Since: 10-19-04 Since last post: 5178 days Last activity: 271 days |
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damn those white people for being better than black folk | |||
Lord Vulkas Mormonus Vile High Xeodent of Xeomerica. Since: 10-29-04 From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way Since last post: 97 days Last activity: 97 days |
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Logos, I'm afraid that your arguement indicates that the blacks, hispanics, and possibly women are less than white men. Sounds a bit prejudice to me. xD.
Anyway, in all seriousness, I think that blacks could be holding themselves down by always yelling out prejudice whenever someone does something negative towards a black man. Granted, I have no problem with black people, I know some really cool ones, and they can be awesome. What I hate is when they are prejudice. When they talk about how they should kill all of the white people, then start yelling prejudice at us when we so much as sneeze in their direction, you know something is going wrong here. It's called hypocrisy. I think that as long as they think of themselves as lower, think that we, the evil white men devils are going to hate them, they limit themselves. When they think like that, they hold resentment towards we who are white, and as such, make themselves less likely to succeed. I just think that they are the ones at fault for their problems, not us who are white. Plenty of intelligent black people have managed to be born in the ghetto, or homeless, and pulled themselves up to being multimillionairs. It's not luck, it's not just that they had some people helping them, it was skill, intelligence, and actually caring enough to advance in this world. Heh, I must have come off as really prejudice with this post, but again, I know of plenty of black people who are awesome, and I don't have a problem with them in general, just with what they do. |
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Logos Again? Banned Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6107 days Last activity: 6198 days |
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I was just pointing out that in modern-day America, there is still a great deal of social and economic inequality between white men and minorities and women. Women and minorities still earn less for the same job, and have lower paying, lower ranked jobs in general. Stop pretending that everyone's equal, Vulkar. | |||
Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5077 days Last activity: 1387 days |
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If he was black/mexican/peurto rican/asian/any other minority he would have no trouble. If he was a woman, he would have no trouble. Same reason black people can call each other "nigga" if that person had "gone through" the same hardships the others had, he/she is allowed to be as racist as they want. It's also socially alright for minorities to insult white people with racist remarks, I think it is hypocritical and full of bullshittery. I disapprove of what he said, but I disapprove even more of the consequences he is receiving for using his freedom of speech. | |||
Lord Vulkas Mormonus Vile High Xeodent of Xeomerica. Since: 10-29-04 From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way Since last post: 97 days Last activity: 97 days |
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Logos, a lot of the time what you're saying is true. But agan, I still think that these blacks are half the problem. They're going around making prejudice statements, and saying they should kill all the white people, where we can't look at hem.
I'm going to use your analogy for this. Originally posted by Logos Now, I agree that the guy he did really good probably shouldn't make fun of those who failed, but should those who failed be able to make fun of the white guy for doing well? Metaphorically, that's exactly what's happening now. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4560 days Last activity: 4553 days |
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Originally posted by Vulkar I was about to start a debate about this, but Vulkar pretty much nailed this on the head (Plus I was afraid people would get the wrong idea about me or something, but I dont have a problem with blacks or other races ) I say, if you are racist, go ahead and be so. I dont care, but dont go pointing fingers at me if I get that person fired. I can find the minute details of wrong in people and use that was my weapon pretty much But I think its unfair that Imus was fired. Hell, theres Hal Turner, a host of a White radio talk show, and he pretty much does alot of racist comments, and he respects hard working citizens in America who arent White, but yet he dosent get fired, so what the hell? |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5077 days Last activity: 1387 days |
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I simply dislike how any minority gets a sort of lee way when it comes to racist remarks, yet the "majority" that isn't really even the majority anymore gets no lee way because we're "The Man" | |||
FX Zombie Marco Since: 03-24-06 Since last post: 3833 days Last activity: 3729 days |
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A friend of mine made a rant that is perfect for this debate:
(Last edited by FX on 04-22-07 01:27 AM) |
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geeogree Ninji Since: 10-19-04 Since last post: 5178 days Last activity: 271 days |
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wow.... calling for extermination of white people.
I realize this is probably not a mainstream view of "blacks" but come on.... that viewpoint is more dangerous than "nappy headed ho's". |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 103 days Last activity: 103 days |
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.... *speachless*
How was he not arrested for that? If I went out and said "we need to kill the black people" my ass would be in jail SO fast! Seriously, the whole country needs racial sensitivity training... or to give me a mallet so I can pound into people's heads that there is only one race! |
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Logos Again? Banned Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6107 days Last activity: 6198 days |
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Originally posted by Ziff |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4560 days Last activity: 4553 days |
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Originally posted by Elara This was viewed on Gaia as well. It went like this. My friends and I got permission from several helpers to start a "White Only" guild. It pretty much spammed me on hate PM's. But then again you have guilds that have "The Asians only" guild and "Females only" type of shit. Why exactly are whites in the wrong here? Its because we are tolerated as being the most racist race of all? Why? Well lets point this out on history. Famous presidents owned slaves, several years ago there were "White only" shops, and last, there was the KKK. Who did this? White people. Some people cant take shit out of their head and get with the times. I guarantee you anything if no race found out about their previous experiences, there would prolly be no racism in this planet. Hating someone because of the color of their skin or whatnot is down right retarded. |
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