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Posted on 10-03-08 03:52 PM, in If "marriage is ONLY for the procreation of children," then... Link
Originally posted by Rogue
- Couples who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry.


You forgot about that one. And should couples get divorced once their children move out, since they're done raising them?
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Posted on 10-04-08 02:18 PM, in TimeSplitters 4 Link
Trailer.

I really hope that they don't do what they were talking about a few months ago - making it Wii exclusive - cause I don't have a Wii anymore .
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Posted on 10-04-08 04:57 PM, in TimeSplitters 4 Link
Yeah, I've played all three. One of my all time favorite franchises of all time.

EDIT: That sentence was redundant to emphasize the point.


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Posted on 10-04-08 05:40 PM, in TimeSplitters 4 Link
3 had the best single player, because it actually had a story, which was awesome. The paradox parts were fucking awesome.

2 had better multiplayer. I don't know why, or what makes it better, it just is.

1 was... 1 was... well, no one cares about 1.
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Posted on 10-05-08 01:55 AM, in Who Watches the Watchmen? (toatally owt nao) Link
Moriarty Sees A Half-Hour Of WATCHMEN In Hollywood!


Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here.
You’d never know there was a lawsuit a-brewin’ out there right now based on the exuberant confidence displayed by Warner Bros. today in a presentation that they repeated twice at The Lot in Hollywood. Whatever Fox is doing, Warner doesn’t seem even slightly deterred from their marketing plan. They held an event almost just like this a few years ago for 300, and today, that same exact mood was in the air, that same sure smile on the face of every one of the Warner publicity team members. They feel like they’ve got something genuinely special coming in the form of Zack Snyder’s WATCHMEN.

And, holy shit, are they right.

Gregory Noveck [not Paul Levitz as I mistakenly wrote orginally -- "M"] was the first person up in front of the journalists assembled in the small upstairs screening room. As editor of DC Comics, he’s got good reason to be excited to see this film come together the way it has. Right now, they’re selling approximately 10 million copies of WATCHMEN a day (I may be underestimating that a bit) thanks to the trailer debut and the building hype on the film, and if the movie delivers completely, expect for that to get even bigger. He spoke a bit about the impact the book has had on comic publishing in general, and then handed over the floor to Zack Snyder.

Every time I talk to Snyder, I’m struck by how unassuming he seems to be. If you just met this guy and chatted with him, you’d never guess that he was one of the most sought-after filmmakers in Hollywood at the moment. I love how he always acknowledges the role that his wife and producer Deborah has in his work. Husband/wife teams can be a volatile mix, but when they work, I think they can also be incredibly formidable, and that’s how the Snyders appear. No arrogance at all... just this sense of focus and calm as they make their way through what should be an impossible task. Snyder talked about how long the film was in development and how it had been called “unfilmable”, and how the thing that really helped him was that there was no time to second guess himself once he took the job. He basically had to step in and get to work, and as a result, he never had time to get overwhelmed by the size of the job.

That’s the thing... you can crack any adaptation if you’re willing to put in the time and the manpower and if you have the right collaborators. Two of those collaborators were at the event yesterday with Snyder, and they certainly seem like the right guys for the job. Costume designer Michael Wilkinson is the one doing the most subversive and interesting visual work on the film, I think, with designs that take the last ten years of superhero movies and duck press them into something that alternates between cool and preposterous, just as the original designs by Dave Gibbons did. And Alex McDowell is, simply put, one of the best production designers working right now. He’s worked on films like Burton’s CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, THE TERMINAL (that airport set, no matter what you thought of the film, was amazing), MINORITY REPORT and FIGHT CLUB. With WATCHMEN, he had one of the largest jobs of this type that anyone’s ever had, and I think he rose to the challenge admirably. After all, he’s not just designing 1985 in the film... he had to create a credible alternate history that spanned over 20 years, and he had to make it feel lived-in and possible, fantastic but also grounded in reality. No easy trick.

I visited the Vancouver sets in December last year, and I’ve seen the same clips packages and trailers that everyone else has so far, but until Snyder finished his introduction and took his seat, I hadn’t seen a full scene play out, so I was still curious how the film would actually feel when all those elements were put together. The first thing we saw was the opening 12 minutes of the movie, and if that had been the only thing that they showed us, I would still be ranting and raving, because this film plants its flag early.

The company logos are shown in start black-on-yellow, without sound, one right after another. Then we pull back from that yellow to reveal a smiley-face pin affixed to the bathrobe of Edward Blake (Jeffrey Dean Morgan), smoking a cigar as he watches TV at home alone. Just these opening few moments will be sensory overload for viewers, especially on repeat viewings. There is so much information about the world and these characters packed into the edges of the frame, details on the walls or things mentioned on TV. This is a film that is perfect for the BluRay age, where you can go back and step through each scene, taking it all in.

I love the talk show that Blake watches a few minutes of, where Pat Buchanan and others debate the state of the world. It perfectly captures the period, and it does a nice job of setting up the way nuclear tensions are on the rise as other countries rattle their sabers in response to the existence of Dr. Manhattan. Blake listens to as much of it as he can stomach, then starts flipping around trying to find something that’s not about the news. He finds a perfume ad (eerily accurate to the era) and stops to watch, enjoying Nat King Cole’s “Unforgettable” as he does, and that’s when there’s a knock on the door.

When Blake answers it, all hell breaks loose as a disguised assassin steps in. Blake doesn’t seem terribly surprised. He makes a move for his gun, which rests on the coffee table, and a fight for his life kicks in. It’s a beautifully staged bit of action that only gradually reveals just how strong the two combatants are. Snyder uses his slow-motion/fast-motion effect really well here, emphasizing particular beats of the brutality in a way that suggests the static image of a comic book, but without anything as overt as Ang Lee’s comic book paneling. It’s like Snyder found the equivalent film vocabulary, and the result is like reading the original WATCHMEN while on acid... it’s the book, absolutely, but suddenly crawling to life and spilling over the edges of the page. As someone who’s been a fan of this book for 20 years now (jeeeez, I’m an old man), I found it almost disquieting to suddenly see it realized so completely onscreen.

At the end of the fight, Blake’s hurled through his picture window and falls to his death, and as that smiley face button lands on the concrete beside him, in a widening pool of blood, Snyder pushes in on it and the opening title sequence kicks in.

What’s your favorite opening title sequence of all time? Is it the glimpse inside the world of John Doe that kicks off SE7EN? Is it one of the beautiful stark graphic design trips by Saul Bass? Maybe one of the surreal titties-and-gun montages from a James Bond film? Whatever the case, get ready to add a title to that list, because the six minute opening title assault that kicks off WATCHMEN is one for the ages, a fascinating mini-movie that takes us through the whole history of this America-that-could-have-been.

Bob Dylan’s “The Times, They Are A-Changin’” proves to be the perfect song to underscore the passage of this world from innocent exuberance to broken-hearted cynicism, and Snyder stages each of these pivotal events as a slow-motion tableau. I love the stuff from the ‘40s with the original Night Owl and a young Sally Jupiter. Jesus, Carla Gugino’s first appearance in the outfit is like the ultimate pin-up fantasy, with her in this tiny yellow outfit and a pair of tiny panties. I love the original-era costumes, the way they all look like they’re made of wool or vintage materials, not a hint of body armor in sight. As the years fly by, things get darker and stranger, and there are some truly shocking images included. Keep your eyes open for Abe Zapruder standing on Dealey Plaza, totally missing the most important part of the shot that made him famous. Some of the effects in this sequence weren’t done, but it doesn’t matter. Snyder seems determined to make this a stunningly beautiful experience as well as a dramatically powerful one, and these six minutes manage to encapsulate both of those desires. It hits hard, but it’s almost like this dream, especially when you see images like Dr. Manhattan shaking hands with JFK. I really can’t believe a major studio is making this film and letting Snyder push it as far as he is.

The next sequence we saw is one of my favorite passages from the book, and I was very curious to see if they could even approach the poetry of it onscreen. It’s when Dr. Manhattan goes to Mars to consider everything that’s happened to him, and he ends up flashing back through the moments of his life before and after the accident that changed him into the most powerful being on the planet. In the comic, it was some of the most sophisticated writing I’d ever encountered in comic form when it was first published. For Dr. Manhattan, time and matter are inconsequential things, and emotions are a mystery. He sifts through his own memory like someone with a handful of sand, and it’s amazing just how right Snyder gets it. From the odd, single sound effect when Manhattan arrives on Mars to the palpable chemistry between John Osterman (Billy Crudup) and fellow physicist Janey Slater (the stunning Laura Mennell) to the horror of the accident itself and the almost-human guilt that Manhattan feels at the way he may or may not have caused cancer in all of his friends and lovers in last few decades... it’s all there. It’s all right.

I loved the way the entire sequence was temp-tracked to Philip Glass’s KOYAANISQATSI score. In particular, it’s the slower, elegiac movement from the score, and it was one of the most haunting re-uses of film music I’ve seen. I don’t think it’ll make the final cut, but it’s powerfully effective right now, especially once we finally cut back to Mars to find Manhattan building himself a palace of crystal and clockwork. Snyder says that he’s working with Tyler Bates on the score now and that they’ve been listening to a lot of ‘80s stuff like MANHUNTER and TO LIVE AND DIE IN LA and BLADE RUNNER to try and find a period-appropriate way to handle the music. I love that idea, and I hope they watch a lot of MIAMI VICE while they’re putting the score together. You can’t go wrong with Tangerine Dream or Vangelis, damn it. You just can’t.

The final major sequence picks up just after Dan (Patrick Wilson) and Laurie (Malin Akerman) have finally made love onboard the Owl Ship. Energized by an earlier attempt to help rescue people from a building fire, the two of them are looking for something else they can do, some other way to recapture that rush of heroism. It’s Dan who suggests that they suit up and go break Rorschach (Jackie Earle Haley) out of prison. Once they’re geared up as Nite Owl II and Silk Spectre II respectively, they pilot the Owl Ship into the prison yard, where a full-scale riot is already underway. This is perfect, as it allows them to slip in fairly unmolested. Once they’re inside, they tear into the assembled prisoners with a sense of abandon and, yes, pleasure. Why would someone opt to be a superhero? For these moments, when you get to rain holy hell down on the deserving, punching and kicking and breaking bones without any guilt at all. Snyder makes it so sensual, and Akerman and Wilson both play it as people who are getting a near-sexual rush from what they’re doing. In my opinion, there’s no major Hollywood filmmaker working today who gets fight choreography and photography as innately as Snyder does, and this film takes all of that to the next level. These fights look like they hurt. Towards the end of the sequence, they find Rorschach, who has already reclaimed his outfit, and they tell him they need to go. He takes a quick moment to settle his business with Big Figure (Danny Woodburn) before he joins them, and it’s a very dark funny moment, with Snyder making excellent use of a swinging door to help build dread.

After a few more quick images from the entire film, including a tantalizing glimpse at some major spoiler material from the end of the film, the presentation was over and we were ushered outside for a reception where they had costumes on display, props under glass, and that oh-so-portable Owl Ship set up so you could peek inside, just like they did at Comic Con. I had a chance to talk to both Wilkinson and McDowell for a bit, and they both struck me as preposterously sharp and creative, the sort of people you would have to have on your team to pull off a film of this scale. Wilkinson talked a bit about his upcoming work on TRON 2, and I asked McDowell if production designers ever get excited about working at a specific soundstage, the way musicians always dream of playing certain venues. “Certainly,” he said. “The 007 stage, some of the stages at Universal like the PHANTOM OF THE OPERA stage or Stage 12. I love backlots, and getting to transform them is one of the real joys of the job.” We talked about everything from his work on CORPSE BRIDE to the way FIGHT CLUB has managed to gradually build in reputation after its initial box-office failure.

I also spent a good chunk of time chatting with Snyder, and more than anything, he seems pleased. The film’s running 2 hours and 43 minutes right now without closing credits, and he doesn’t feel like he’s really had to sacrifice anything to get it to that length. At most, a director’s extended cut might add 20 minutes or so to that time, and the BLACK FREIGHTER material might add in another half-hour at most. The theatrical version might not be the last cut of WATCHMEN we see, but it’s certainly not a compromised edit in any way.

In fact, if there’s one word I’d use for what we saw yesterday, it would be “uncompromised,” and that is a rare thing to be able to say. I’ve written a lot about the various permutations of WATCHMEN in my time here at AICN. I remember sitting in Lloyd Levin’s living room in London, paging through books of production art and casting ideas for the Paul Greengrass version, convinced that was as close as anyone would be able to get to making the film work onscreen. I championed the Hayter drafts over the years because I could sense the genuine passion to get the heart of the material right. But never in all that time did I dare hope that we would get a movie as accurate in every way as the one that will hit theaters next March.

Who watches the Watchmen? Me, goddammit, as soon as they’ll let me, and many, many, many times after that.


EDIT: Mr. Beaks Sees Twenty-Five Minutes Of Zack Snyder's WATCHMEN, Says More Than "Hurm"!



"I am going to look at the stars. They are so far away, and their light takes so long to reach us. All we ever see of stars are their old photographs."
When I read, I have a peculiar tendency to sort of "score the book". In other words, as soon as I pick up on the mood of the piece, a melody presents itself - typically a melody from another composer, but not always. It's a habit I cultivated in childhood, and it grew out of my fierce interest in comic books - and since movies were my other preferred method of storytelling, why not treat the reading of a graphic novel like the unfolding of a film? And so it went: Bernard Herrmann for THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS; Vangelis's "End Titles" theme from BLADE RUNNER for THE UNCANNY X-MEN; running triplets of my own devising for any of the Spider-Man series. Sometimes I hum them. Oftentimes, people think I'm certifiable.
For WATCHMEN, it was Prokofiev's "Lieutenant Kije Suite" - or Sting's appropriation of it for his heavy-handed Cold War lament, "Russians" - and it was a purely emotional response to the melancholy origin story of Dr. Manhattan, which begins in Chapter IV, amid the frigid loneliness of Mars, with the above-quoted observation. For me, "Russians" and WATCHMEN have been inextricable since I made that association; it's what I hear every time I revisit Alan Moore's graphic novel (a part of me always wanted to pair the two when I made my brilliant adaptation of WATCHMEN; stunningly, that never happened). I figured it was stuck there for good.

Well, now it's gone, replaced by Philip Glass's mournful, organ-tinged "Prophecies" from KOYAANISQATSI. As far as I'm concerned, Zack Snyder is henceforth in full ownership of Jon Osterman's vaporization and glowing blue rebirth as "Dr. Manhattan". And while I hate to make sweeping proclamations based on twenty-five minutes of unfinished footage (unveiled Wednesday evening by Warner Bros. at The Lot in West Hollywood), I'm beginning to sense that he's transformed Moore's "unfilmable" deconstruction of the twentieth-century superhero into indelible twenty-first century cinema.

But first, Snyder's got to lock down that Glass cue - which, as of now, is not permanent (though it's certainly been on his mind for a while, seeing as how it accompanied the extended teaser at Comic Con '08). He should also do everything in his power to keep the original recording of Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are a-Changin'" for the opening title sequence (a stirring montage of key events starting with the "Minutemen" period and concluding with that molotov cocktail through the glass storefront), even though he told us that he's going to have to expanded the bridge to leg the three-minute tune out to six minutes. If there's a way to seamlessly mesh the old with the new, I'd much prefer it to a new recording; the original is too loaded with deep societal significance. And, oh, what a sickening feeling to hear it whilst watching an overcranked recreation of JFK's assassination from the vantage point of The Comedian as the second gunman (I literally flinched at this).

Moore's tome has not humbled Snyder; it's emboldened him. Whereas Snyder seemed committed to channeling Frank Miller's 300 directly from the page to the screen (with every thrust and decapitation intact), he's bravely added his own flourishes to WATCHMEN. Aside from the music, which adroitly evokes the era (KOYAANISQATSI was very much a 1980s Cold War creation), he's also made reference to the most influential movies of our time. When you see Nixon in the War Room, it's Kubrick's War Room; when Dr. Manhattan is brutally taming Vietnam, it's Coppola's Vietnam (though, according to production designer Alex McDowell, minor stylistic alterations, like the shape of the overhead lights in the War Room, were necessary to avoid legal dust-ups*). Snyder may not be a stranger to audaciousness (he did, after all, remake DAWN OF THE DEAD), but this is the first time I've sensed him in the work. And I think this reconfiguring of classic cinematic tropes is a potentially brilliant idea. Conceptually, it's in keeping with Moore's depiction of pop culture rising up against (or knuckling under) the encroachment of full-blown authoritarianism; hell, I think the notoriously cranky writer might even approve of some of these changes.

I do not, however, think he'd be a huge fan of Snyder's pre-credit fight sequence between The Comedian and you-know-who. Though it's an essential (and very well done) capitulation to the demands of the marketplace, purists will almost certainly carp at the idea of a conventional action set piece (probably a minute long) kicking off WATCHMEN. The jailhouse rescue of Rorschach has also been protracted to show off the combat expertise of Nite Owl and Silk Spectre; again, it's invigorating stuff (Snyder subscribes to the full-shot, long-take philosophy of filmic fisticuffs, which is refreshing in our post-BOURNE age), but it's definitely an embellishment of what's on the page. Same goes for Dr. Manhattan casually exploding a bunch of thugs in a night club - though I think we all can agree on the shot of the tough guys' innards plastered to the ceiling from the impact. This is what happens when mere mortals go toe-to-toe with a real-life "Superman".

One other fan caveat has been the fetish-y appearance of Michael Wilkinson's costumes. Drop it. On a functional level, they work beautifully within Snyder's (and McDowell's) heightened environment; meanwhile, on a thematic level, they're a smart and, I think, necessary answer to the rubber-suit nonsense of the modern superhero movie. With such heavily deconstructive material, Snyder would be remiss if he didn't comment on the medium in which this version of Moore's narrative is being told.

At the end of the day, it's twenty-five minutes of unfinished footage, so I don't want to damn the film with unreasonable expectations by saying it's "epochal" or that it "looks like nothing I've ever seen before" - even though both escaped my lips as I discussed the presentation with Moriarty on the way home. It's too early. And these pre-release, piecemeal hype generators can be misleading. That said, even if Snyder Bathgates the rest of the movie, those opening credits and Dr. Jon Osterman's Glass-scored ascent from man to God are all-timers. Available evidence suggests that these passages won't be isolated glimmers of genius. It's taken two decades, but the light has reached us. People, I think Zack Snyder has conquered WATCHMEN.

My apologies, Zack, but you called your shot last night. You've earned the hyperbole. Now finish this fucker right.

Faithfully submitted,

Mr. Beaks




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Posted on 10-06-08 03:17 AM, in If "marriage is ONLY for the procreation of children," then... Link
Marriage does have legal benefits. And making it harder to split up is sort of the point; it's a commitment. It's saying "I promise to be with you forever," and showing it by making a legal commitment.
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Posted on 10-06-08 06:22 PM, in Castle Link
New series:


I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't only interested in this for Nathan Fillion.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:19 PM, in Castle Link
It's a show wish someone from Firefly, and it's NOT on FOX. That's all I need to know.
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Posted on 10-07-08 03:04 PM, in War of the Shards 1 1/2 Link
Alden stood in the doorway of Gregory's office, not quite in and not quite out.

"They took Jack, Gregory. The Rogue Wave attacked us, and kidnapped Jack. There were casualties, a lot more on their side than ours. I need authorization to assemble a special task force to track him down."
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Posted on 10-07-08 05:21 PM, in If "marriage is ONLY for the procreation of children," then... Link
Also, don't forget the second sentence in the Declaration of Independence: "All men are created equal." I do believe that includes gay men...
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Posted on 10-08-08 02:02 AM, in War of the Shards 1 1/2 Link
"Gregory, I'm not sure that's wise. You're a non-combatant, and you're integral to the operation of the IFDF here."




The man gestured to one of the masked men who immediately ran off to comply with the request.

"My name is Anthony, and I lead the Rogue Wave. Is their anything you need? Food, drink perhaps?"
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Posted on 10-08-08 02:32 AM, in Oakhurst Link
Erik S. Shaw quickly, but calmly, unbuckled his seat belt and approached the emergency exit, being careful to step over the corpse of the captain. He tried to open the door, but it didn't move, even when he leaned his weight into it. He took a step back and delivered a full-forced kick into the door, sending open with such force that it nearly bounced closed again.

"Come on, people, let's get moving; we don't have much time."
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Posted on 10-08-08 12:40 PM, in Don't Vote Link
Originally posted by Cyro Xero
I don't even know who I'll vote for. Probably McCain.

Please, please don't. If you're even thinking about it, remember this quote from last night's debate:

Originally posted by John McCain
Now, Obama says we need to dispose of nuclear waste or something, whatever.


Whatever, indeed.
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Posted on 10-08-08 08:54 PM, in Don't Vote Link
Quick note, I got that quote from McCain wrong (I was paraphrasing). It's actually this:

Originally posted by John McCain
Nuclear power. Senator Obama says that it has to be safe or disposable or something like that.


That's actually worse....
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Posted on 10-08-08 11:32 PM, in Xeogaming Event Link
Originally posted by Cyro Xero
Originally posted by Xeu

Hmm, I can see how broken consoles can do that.


Massive posts by Cyro = Something is wrong on his end.

So it takes something going wrong on your end for you to come visit us? I see how it is.
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Posted on 10-09-08 03:28 AM, in Random IM Conversation Thread Link
Noah Diamond-Stolzman
Esaw Wood sawed wood. Esaw Wood would saw wood. All the wood Esaw Wood saw Esaw Wood would saw. In other words, all the wood Esaw saw to saw which Wood would saw wood. But on eday Wood's wood-saw would saw no wood, and thus the wood Wood sawed was not the wood Wood would saw if Wood's wood-saw would saw wood. Now, Wood would saw wood with a wood-saw that would saw wood, so Esaw sought a saw that would saw wood. One day Esaw saw a saw saw wood as no other wood-saw Wood saw would saw wood. In fact, of all the wood-saws Wood saw saw wood would saw wood, and I never saw a wood-saw that would saw as the wood-saw Wood saw would saw until I saw Esaw saw wood with the wood-saw Wood saw wood. Now Wood saws wood with the wood saw Wood saw saw wood.
Teundusia
I got about three sentences in before getting confused.
Noah Diamond-Stolzman
wuss
no more oxygen for you until you get through it
Teundusia
I CAN'T BE BOTHERED WITH THIS SHIT AT SEVEN AM
Oh shi- *Suffocates*
Noah Diamond-Stolzman
THEN GO TO A BETTER TIME ZONE
Teundusia
WE'RE THE BEST TIME ZONE BITCH
THE TIME ZONES REVOLVE AROUND MINE
Noah Diamond-Stolzman
you're in Grenwitch?
Greenwitch*
Teundusia
My time zone is.
Considering it's GMT
Noah Diamond-Stolzman
don't you know
Obama's going to move Greenwitch to Wisconsin
Teundusia
NAh
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Posted on 10-09-08 01:30 PM, in Don't Vote Link
And don't forget McCain's great plan to solve the medicare crisis: get a bunch of smart people together to come up with a plan!

Seriously, most of the stuff McCain said in the debate regarding certain issues was, "I know how to fix that," and then not saying how he was planning on fixing it...
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Posted on 10-10-08 03:17 PM, in So, I know you all like Obama, but can you seriously take this? Link
That video's lack of evidence is disturbing.

Seriously, some proof that Obama opposed anything, or supports anything... something besides some woman just saying that it is?
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Posted on 10-11-08 03:01 PM, in Do you remember Random Task? One of Dr. Evil's henchmen from the first Austin Powers Link
Cruel and unusual punishment, my friend.
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Posted on 10-12-08 06:34 PM, in Do you remember Random Task? One of Dr. Evil's henchmen from the first Austin Powers Link
Originally posted by Valhalla
Originally posted by FX
Cruel and unusual punishment, my friend.

In some states, for killing somebody you get killed yourself. Not too cruel if you think about it.

Then by that logic, rapists should just get raped, which does happen in prison.
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