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Since: 01-10-05

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Posted on 03-17-06 02:32 PM Link | Quote
For anything you plan on putting up on servers do name the .zip file in what the file really is. Like lets say I'm uploading Back in Black for the ACDC thread, I wouldn't call the .zip back_in_black.zip That'd be to obvious and since many servers threaten to report to proper authorities it'd be wiser to choose a less suspicious file name like lets say family_pictures.zip or funny_times.zip

Just keep things as far away from what they really are as much as possible, m'kay? It'd be a shame to lose a member to the RIAA.
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 03-17-06 02:50 PM Link | Quote
Dang, guess I'll have to come up with a lot of ideas now.
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Posted on 03-17-06 02:52 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I need to start doing this, Cant afford the RIAA on me.

That and 2/3 rds of my collection are copies
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:00 PM Link | Quote
The good thing is I don't think there would be any way for them to find proof that stuff exists here, since this is a Restricted Forum afterall, guests and whoever can't view any threads or posts here.
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xeomega
The good thing is I don't think there would be any way for them to find proof that stuff exists here, since this is a Restricted Forum afterall, guests and whoever can't view any threads or posts here.



Would they be able to force your host into letting them see all the files/coding?
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:06 PM Link | Quote
Xeo, patriot act they can use the excuse of that they were fighting terrorism. But you can talk to Zabuza he knows more of the subject than anyone else on this board.


Oh and for now on, I'm just going to use aol speak in all of my .zip files. Such as lol_haha.zip

If I saw such a file I'd think the person is stupid, so thats what I'm going for; keep things far away from the truth as much as possible not me being stupid
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Posted on 03-18-06 07:27 AM Link | Quote
Heh, they'd threaten Erk.

And he'd push the "DELETE" button.

End of the story.



And shit, if someone came after me, that'd be ridiculous.

I buy more CDs than most people (and I'm only posting CDs here so you guys can see what it's like, then MAYBE buy it).




= Nevermind the above (wtf) =
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Posted on 03-18-06 08:41 AM Link | Quote
But do you guys really think we have to worry?

All of Hoboconductor's talk has gotten me worried about having this forum around ...

Then again, I remember Erk has some kind of forum just like this but on the main index free to everyone.
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Posted on 03-18-06 09:10 AM Link | Quote
I always thought, All of us have Gmail (I think) We could just wipe all the old threads away and posts requests here, and who ever has it, can Gmail it to the other person.

OR We could make a Gmail account, that We know the pass too, and just send our stuff to that. If you want something, just log in and d/l it.


(Last edited by Spyware on 03-18-06 12:32 PM)
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Posted on 03-18-06 10:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xeomega
All of Hoboconductor's talk has gotten me worried about having this forum around ...



I have an extreme problem with paranoia of computer security keep that in mind, I may just be over reacting and we would be ok with this stuff s'long as nobody goes telling other people about it and such.

We could always consult security professionals (Zabuza and other (ex)hackers)
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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 03-18-06 04:06 PM Link | Quote
I seriously wouldent worry about it untill the problem would arrive...I understand Xeo that you have a RIGHT to be worried...So maybe You can come up with another way we can all gather and post requests and Songs...

Kinda like how you did the X-Forums...but without the Xeogaming perhaps?

We should all get Ventrillo
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Since: 08-20-04
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Posted on 03-18-06 07:10 PM Link | Quote
Unless Erk is total jerk (of which I assume he is), he probably wouldn't sell out paying customers. And the RIAA wouldn't just attack a single member, they'd pretty much sue the member, Xeo, and Erk for allowing the hosting. One member can shut down an entire site. Also, since you've already posted on a publicly available and searchable (since Xeo doesn't add the code to prevent search-bots from logging everything) message board that you're going to rename .zip files, it defeats the purpose of doing that.

The RIAA is less likely to find us since we're not broadcasting this uploading and downloading of protected materials on other websites. Also, there are legal loopholes to the transferring of protected materials that one or more of us rightfully purchased, but I'm not discussing those here. You want that info, you know where to find me.

Paranoia is healthy. Excessive paranoia isn't. I'd say you guys are in the clear for now, but you should probably stop. No matter how secure you think you are, a simple court order can force Erk to disclose everything that's on the server to any authority requesting it (damn Patriot Act). You had a good run, but maybe it's time to stop. Anyone caught by the RIAA downloading or uploading protected materials can be prosecuted. This includes minors, which will transfer to the parents, and I'm sure your parents wouldn't like that.

Also, Google mail allows for you to store your files online, but they don't condone illegal file sharing as well, so your account (or even IP address) may be banned or closed down.

However, if your decision is to keep this running, Xeo or whomever programs the site should take the time needed to block out search bots (it's not that hard, I have the tag as part of my layout, and none of my personal recent posts show up in Google) and maybe username and password protect the forum if possible. It won't stop the RIAA, but it will hinder them for a while if they just can't pretend to be some cool 14-year-old, gain your trust, and enter the "Special Forum". I mean, if I worked for them, I'd do that.

And, Xeo, since Erk is your hosting provider, contact him on his stance on this issue on his servers. If he has an objection to it, it's better to stop and remove any evidence to it. He, as your host, has the legal right to terminate your service and contracts at any time if he feels that you're committing illegal activities using his servers. Don't tell him that you're doing it, just find out how he feels about it on his servers in case anyone were to actually start doing that. If he's fine with it, still be careful. I'm sure he'd rather sell you out than lose his company to the RIAA.


(Last edited by Zabuza on 03-18-06 10:11 PM)
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Posted on 03-18-06 10:57 PM Link | Quote
I think im done with posting music up here, etc...

Most of my collection I didnt buy, and I cant afford to have the RIAA on my ass and such.

Meh, it was fun while it lasted Maybe we should all make data discs and mail them around XD just kiddin
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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 03-19-06 12:09 AM Link | Quote
This CANT be the end of the special forum...

If theres a will, theres a way
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Posted on 03-19-06 08:37 AM Link | Quote
I'm just going to buy rhapsody.

You can play entire songs without paying for them and I'm just going to record what comes out of my speakers.
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Since: 09-02-04
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Posted on 03-20-06 12:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sajin of the Gorotto Sea
This CANT be the end of the special forum...
Don't worry, it's just the end (maybe) of illegal downloading/uploading.

But...what else was the forum for?



No, not that.
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Posted on 03-20-06 01:08 AM Link | Quote
After thinking it over the past few days, and reading over Zabuza's post I think it's clear what we should do, and what would be the best decision about this.

Overall, I felt pretty relaxed about it because of this, but then again we are deliberetly using these free online hosts to send each other files that could be easily seen as copyright violation.

And obviously, there are other sources: AIM, IRC, whatever.

I probably will delete this forum (entirely through the db and everything). It was fun, something fresh, but as others have said "in the long run" I don't think it's too safe to have this forum here.

Honestly, I'd feel a lot more relaxed if we were using some other kind of forum software, such as phpBB, but I'm sure you all have clearly seen how unstable AcmlmBoard's are, so it's not like this forum is hidden "that well" (how many times has this place been hacked?).

But it's not like we can keep this idea going. Maybe someone could setup a funpic account, setup a phpBB board there, setup a hidden user group / forum and we could join under new alias's and continue this.

I honestly enjoyed this forum, because I'm a weird person and get excited about sharing things I love with other people. Seeing how I have spread Power Metal to you guys makes me feel good.

So, there's my thoughts.
(disregard that last PM I sent you Hobo)
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Posted on 03-20-06 01:15 AM Link | Quote
But seriously guys, just BUY all of Gamma Ray's albums.

Fuckin' pwnage!

(I'll have to send you guys Blast from the Past because it's too good)
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Posted on 03-20-06 09:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Politician



No, not that.



:: Shivers :: We already have a place for spam...

:: Shifty eyes ::

I need to come up with some ideas...
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Posted on 03-20-06 07:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xeomega
But seriously guys, just BUY all of Gamma Ray's albums.

Fuckin' pwnage!

(I'll have to send you guys Blast from the Past because it's too good)



Send it to me!

I think i've listened to "no world order" 20 times through so far. no joke.
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