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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance         Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 664 days Last activity: 472 days |
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| Everywhere I turn people are still arguing about "the wrongful execution" of Tookie Williams.
OK, for those of you in the dark, Tookie Williams calls himself the founder of the Crips (though it's been proven by several founders that he didn't really found them, and even they want him dead) and killed 4 people in cold blood (one 7-Eleven clerk and a family, a 30 or 40-something-year-old woman and her parents, in their motel room after he busted down the door for no reason and blew them away at point blank with his shotgun). Upon his conviction, he threatened to kill all of the members of the jury, and has since been serving time in prison, up until his execution last week. Liberals and others had been crying for his freedom since a month 'til the execution date. Do you REALLY want this guy free? Why not Charlie Manson then? Hmm? So he wrote a few children's books... that doesn't take away from what he did. He didn't show clemency to his victims. And people are still whining about the situation. No gang uprisings happened. No riots. Nothing that people were threatening would happen if he was killed. OK, sorry to be complaining about it too, but I'm tired of my e-mail box getting spammed with this link. http://www.savetookie.org/ "Savetookie.org will be having a live Webcast of his Memorial Services at noon. I've included the website in case you want further information." ENOUGH! He's dead already. You lost your bleeding heart case. He isn't the next coming of Christ or whatever lamb you think he is (what kind fucked up messiah are you following?). It's people like you that buy pit bulls for your newborn baby. (Last edited by Rogue on 12-21-05 12:40 AM) |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering  Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2510 days Last activity: 1361 days |
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In their defense, if a pit bull is raised properly it won't be as aggressive as everyone thinks. 
This is the first I've heard of this, however. =/ (Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 12-20-05 05:52 PM) |
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avatar of law Beezo  Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5797 days Last activity: 5797 days |
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Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis prob cause you dont live in cali. anyways, i dont hear about this anymore after his execution. i didnt hear anything about no riots if they would execute him either. in any case, i think you're really spinning this outta control. the only thing that's weak about ppl's case about capital punishment is that instead of focusing on an individual, they should just focus on it in general. like arnold's push for an admendment for non-american born citizens for president. no one would vote on it, because they know it's entirly just for him. if he would promise that he wouldnt run if the admendment were to be passed, it would look better. this is the same for tookie. instead of pushing for an end to capital punishment just for an individual, they shouldn't be gathering at the next person up for an execution. it just looks bad if you're doing it for one person, instead of it in general. anyways, point being, people are stupid when it comes to a "higher calling." if they were to allow death sentencees a chance to say that they've changed, then obviously everyone on death row will say the same thing. so just them saying or even showing that they've changed should not have any bearing on anything. it just just be all or none. capital punishment, or no capital punishment at all. plus, i think ppl are wayyyyyy too much into capital punishment. we hardly ever use it, and they're making it as if it's an everyday kinda thing. anyways, in some states, ppl get executed within years, tookie has been in prison for a long ass time. |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 664 days Last activity: 472 days |
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| I dunno.. perhaps I'm just in the wrong circles when it comes to this insanity. People are still talking about it and it's been driving me nuts.
I can't agree more with you, avatar. We aren't Texas for crying out loud. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 130 days Last activity: 130 days |
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| I got sick of it after seeing on the news for like 3 days straight... the guy may say he's sorry, and he may have wrote books for kids about how gangs are bad... but that doesn't change the past. I'm sure that if he hadn't gotten taken off Death Row that they would rally around Manson as well... and he doesn't show ANY remorse for what he did.
I agree with avatar on this: if you want to change the system on capital punishment then focus on the collective and not the individual. I'm a very liberal person for the most part, and even I actually see a purpose for the death penalty. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt  Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4587 days Last activity: 4581 days |
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Originally posted by Rogue Well, something everyone needs to realize is that its "The latest Gossip". I live in Georgia and its a wide-spread conversation throught my school. Edit- Diddnt need to post what I posted...retarded Well...let them talk. Just shrug off the whole arguement and go with what you believe...but at the same time respect others beliefs...at least...thats what I do... (Last edited by Sajin Gorotto on 12-21-05 04:10 AM) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3995 days Last activity: 3901 days |
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| 'Redemption' was a stirring television-only movie (now on DVD at your local Blockbuster) that starred Jamie Foxx as Tookie Williams. His performance was amazing as usual. Anywho it goes in-detail about Williams's prison sentence and what he has done. It's actually quite a stirring movie. After I seeing it I haven't really decided my stance on his freedom. Doesn't really matter now though....... | |||
Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie!  Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 964 days Last activity: 964 days |
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| I haven't heard about this mostly because I don't care. If it's not that important to me, I really don't pay much attention. If the thing is dead, let it be. He ain't coming back.
If he wanted to kill people, and we wanted to worship that, we might as well worship the state of Texas. We already elected their village idiot for President. |
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