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Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

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Posted on 05-12-05 08:29 AM Link | Quote
As far as I know, people earn lucre according to quantity of posts, and I believe it should be more advanced.

Rather than make it so that people gain the same amount of lucre for each post/thread, make it so that the gain it based on how long the post is. I've seen this on many forums, and I believe it may work.
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Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 05-12-05 05:21 PM Link | Quote
Well, here's the thing. It's possible to make long, meaningless posts. And it's possible to make short, meaningful posts. I've seen both extremes here numerous times. Also, what about the many times when Rogue copy-pastes an article into her posts in Current Events/Debate? She'd get more lucre for something that wasn't her work to begin with.


Note: I am not trying to say Rogue would abuse this, I'm merely pointing out a flaw in the idea.


(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 05-12-05 08:22 PM)
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 05-12-05 10:07 PM Link | Quote
It would be nice to have this put in, but from reading Tamarin Calanis post I have to say it would be unfair. It would be rather tricky too to make this feature wouldn't it?


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Posted on 05-13-05 05:41 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Déesse
It would be rather tricky too to make this feature wouldn't it?


Nope.

I know exactly how to do it.

But the idea has too many flaws, in my opinion.
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Posted on 05-13-05 11:58 AM Link | Quote
It would be better off as we are right now. I mean, if everyone post 3 links to their pictures, we would might as well as call it 1000 Lucre for each link and I would be sticking rich as other people would too.

Not only that but Tamarin's right too. If everyone post a stupid spam that take up 10000 words, he or she would be cheating and we would have to stop meaningless lucre.

Plus, I don't see the problem with having lucre each time you post.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 05-13-05 01:56 PM Link | Quote
well, perhaps that is true.

So perhaps is could somehow not count quotes?
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 05-13-05 02:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by DarkSlaya, Jedi Wargod
Originally posted by Déesse
It would be rather tricky too to make this feature wouldn't it?


Nope.

I know exactly how to do it.

But the idea has too many flaws, in my opinion.


Yeah, thinking about this I'm sure people could do many things to "trick" the system.

Simply, hitting "space" a bunch of times. Maybe putting images in a post that takes up a lot of "character space".

I'm not exactly sure how this would work, but I agree that it would have it's flaws.

It's not a bad idea though, to think about.


(Last edited by Darth Xeodious on 05-13-05 05:08 PM)
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Since: 02-23-05
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Posted on 05-13-05 04:03 PM Link | Quote
Well here's my view on it- it all comes down to the simple fact that you shouldn't post just to get money.
Rogue
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Since: 08-17-04

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Posted on 05-13-05 04:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
Well, here's the thing. It's possible to make long, meaningless posts. And it's possible to make short, meaningful posts. I've seen both extremes here numerous times. Also, what about the many times when Rogue copy-pastes an article into her posts in Current Events/Debate? She'd get more lucre for something that wasn't her work to begin with.


Note: I am not trying to say Rogue would abuse this, I'm merely pointing out a flaw in the idea.
Considering the fact that I don't even use or care about our fake money system, would you rather I just delete all of my lucre to be fair?

No really, I don't care about this stuff (as I don't even sim battle) and hell, being an admin and can give or take it away, I don't really see a point in my having any.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 05-13-05 04:55 PM Link | Quote
then perhaps a better idea.

Anything inside tags, minus bold, italics, underlined, ect would not be counted? It would judge the picture by it's text form.
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 05-13-05 08:47 PM Link | Quote
Astrophel
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Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 05-13-05 09:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Considering the fact that I don't even use or care about our fake money system, would you rather I just delete all of my lucre to be fair?

No really, I don't care about this stuff (as I don't even sim battle) and hell, being an admin and can give or take it away, I don't really see a point in my having any.
Touchy today?

I was using you as an example, I'm sure others have copy-pasted articles into their posts before. That would lengthen the post, and under the proposed system that would get more money.

Sheesh. Sorry.
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Posted on 05-14-05 12:22 AM Link | Quote
Ummm... What's kinda post did Syntax just did?

Look, Rogue... Or whatever you go by now... Tamarin is setting a point that he doesn't want to experience directly first. He is just stating a point of proof where "we" could show a possibility outcome of a certain event. If we alway do it first before consider the action side effect, most people would be taking advantage of the whole thing and we would be making ourselves look pretty stupid.

So just take it easy, alright?

Sometime, it is better to set a example and show a point of simulation of a event that people MAY do in their behavior toward to these type of rules. We do NOT mean to offend you in any way but your current up-to-date knowledge can show and effect on how everyone would response in a new behavior if they knew one way of gaining Lucre by doing what you did.

Errr... I am just sleepy and my brain acting all freaky.

I just think this is a bad idea. Period.
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Since: 08-20-04
From: California

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Posted on 05-14-05 02:57 AM Link | Quote
Considering the fact that I am the richest user on the board, and also don't use the lucre even though I did buy a few things, and I do contribute, and I write my stories, and I've lost my train of thought, why are we fighting about the structures of a fake money system when most people just make up the weapons and such they use in sim battles anyway?

And, to my understanding, you're given lucre on a per post basis, not a word-quantity of post basis. So, quit yer complainin' and post some good ol' crap, and you'll be rich beyond yer wildest dreams as well, ya damn whippersnappers.

Maybe if you saved up lucre, like I do, you'd have lots of it. But why are we arguing about this? We might as well argue about monopoly money while we're at it.


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(Last edited by Zabuza on 05-14-05 05:58 AM)
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Posted on 05-14-05 10:10 AM Link | Quote
Heh, it's funny how people always take me too seriously (EDIT: or out of context), especially Beowulf.

Oh well. How 'bout this... post and be active. This is all meant to be fun, not something to ruin your day over.


(Last edited by Ford Prefect on 05-14-05 01:11 PM)
Déesse

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 05-14-05 05:23 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Vulkar

Anything inside tags, minus bold, italics, underlined, ect would not be counted? It would judge the picture by it's text form.

What no, if you want more lucre there is already a few ways to get it. Xeo has the bring someone along and get lucre and like Rogue said, be active, post a lot and save your money, then you will be able to buy things

Don't you need the battle arena to be up anyway to be able to use your new armour etc? last I saw it isn't working yet
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 05-14-05 08:31 PM Link | Quote
The Battle Arena is working ... somewhat (not for everyone).

I'm basically leaning on what the majority of you have said, it just doesn't seem needed.

Besides this, there are other ways to gaining quantities of Lucre, such as the "Bring Members", the "Game Reviews", etc.

But like Zabuza and others have said, if you just post and don't "worry" about your Lucre count, before you know it you'll be rich. I bought my Masamune through the Itemshop easily, and right now I myself can basically buy anything I want, while I still have good equipment. Just post, don't worry, then "Whoa" you'll have a lot to spend.


(Last edited by Darth Xeodious on 05-14-05 11:32 PM)
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Since: 09-05-04
From: His Laughin' Place

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Posted on 05-15-05 05:20 PM Link | Quote
Can I earn Lucre for telling people about the board? I converted Dark X, Steve the cat, and alot of people on the board...I know Steve (Cory) will be on this board alot, he lives...30 seconds from my house, not to mention hes done told people about this board, so yeah, people can deserve a little credit....

I dunno, im not telling you to give me Lucre, im just giving my thoughts.....
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Since: 02-23-05
From: Minnesota!!

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Posted on 05-16-05 07:47 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Darth Xeodious
Just post, don't worry, then "Whoa" you'll have a lot to spend.


Yeah, then there's the problem of me being able to get into the market because of the battle hack incident, hehe And that falls under it not working for everyone like you said.

Well Darth, as long as the people you bring over stay active then you get the dough, if not, then no.
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Since: 08-20-04
From: Macomb, MI

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Posted on 05-16-05 09:49 AM Link | Quote
Not to mention somone putting meaningless html code in there posts...

<dfijhlfjsdhljksdfkjlsfdhsfkdjhsdfhdsfjsdfk> and so forth
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