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Since: 01-29-05
From: New Zealand

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Posted on 12-17-11 01:50 PM Link | Quote
So, the American government is trying to censor the internet. This isn't much of a debate, as none of us would like to see that happen. This is something we should all be trying to stop, as it shapes not only our futures, but the world's future, as America often sets a standard for the rest of the world.

Now, I know the video is a bit long.... but it is very informative! Watch, listen and learn, and hopefully something can be done to prevent SOPA from passing!


Ball and Chain Trooper

Since: 08-14-04
From: 255

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Posted on 12-17-11 02:59 PM Link | Quote
Yeah this is just straight up stupidity. Really really really hope this does NOT pass. This issue is getting so old.
Lord Alexandor

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Since: 10-15-06
From: Dayton, OH

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Posted on 12-20-11 06:43 PM Link | Quote
I posted some things about this on my Facebook. Here they are:

"If SOPA and/or PROTECT-IP pass, the American government has failed to represent the citizens of the United States of America. If this happens, I sincerely hope the citizens of the internet fight back. I suggest people interested in seeing the internet after SOPA/PROTECT-IP check out the TOR network..."

"NOTE: If SOPA/PROTECT-IP pass, sites like Facebook, YouTube, Flikr, MySpace, Twitter, Reddit, etc will not be able to operate. The overhead cost to run a social website is enormous under these bills because the site owner must be liable and police ALL CONTENT!


American Censorship Infographic
SOPA Opposition Petition (from Reddit)

I also posted the video that you have linked. Dangerous stuff...

PS: Check out my post over in the NDAA thread!
True Flight

The One

Since: 08-21-04

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Posted on 12-21-11 07:27 PM Link | Quote
Hmm... SOPA would really affect this board you know. *looks at 255*


Since: 01-29-05
From: New Zealand

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Posted on 12-23-11 11:31 PM Link | Quote
Here is some more good information, surprisingly from Ashton Kutcher's blog...

SOPA Is The Problem And Not The Solution.

SOPA Bill is trying to prevent intellectual property piracy which is a legitimate goal, but the way it is going about it will break the Internet and may cause economic calamity.

At its core SOPA unwillingly recruits Internet industry companies like social networks, ISP's and search engines to become policing agents and legally liable for it's users content. Forcing social media sites and ISP's responsible for users content is amazingly burdensome and costly. SOPA will create economic problems for Internet start-ups which will be an additional negative side effect. This may cause a slow down in the Internet economic sector, which is providing real jobs and innovation for the US economy.

DMCA may not be perfect but it does allow for copyrite owners to police it's intellectual property to be removed from web sites by bad actors or zealous fans. Thus removing the legal liability from the search engine or ISP that points to or hosts this content. Yes I understand that this is difficult to manage with overseas web sites, but SOPA as it is written causes more problems then solves.

Moreover, what is most shocking, is SOPA's idea of giving judges determination of Internet DNS. The bill suggests DNS administrators remove bad actor domains on judges orders; thus breaking the fundamentals of the Internet. It is a disastrous precedent to have Congress legislate Internet DNS control.

Placing search engines and ISP's in the middle of policing for piracy is plain and simply a bad and confused attempt by well meaning people that fundamentally don't understand how the the Internet works.

The SOPA bills secondary title is "To promote prosperity, creativity, entrepreneurship, and innovation by combating the theft of U.S. property, and for other purposes.", which is interesting because it almost reverses everything it attempts to do by it's methods of enforcement. I don't support SOPA and I believe we all need to call and write our Congress to help them know we want a No vote on SOPA.

Super Shotgun

Since: 01-11-05

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Posted on 12-24-11 05:44 PM Link | Quote
I wouldn't be surprised if people are pirating even more in protest, now that I think about it.
True Flight

The One

Since: 08-21-04

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Posted on 01-05-12 04:00 PM Link | Quote

Dear Mrs. Conklin:

Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 968, the "Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011," and H.R. 3261, the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It is good to hear from you.

S. 968 was introduced on May 12, 2011, and referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. On May 26, S. 968 was reported out of committee and placed on the general legislative calendar. If enacted, S. 968 would amend federal copyright law to authorize the Attorney General to file civil action against violators of copyright infringement law.

H.R. 3261 was introduced on October 26, 2011, and referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. On November 16, H.R. 3261 was considered before the full committee. If enacted, H.R. 3261 would authorize the Attorney General to seek a court order against a U.S.-directed foreign Internet site committing or facilitating online piracy.

I am concerned about the substantial negative impacts that intellectual property theft and the sale of counterfeit goods have on our nation's economy. As Congress reviews potential reforms to our nation's intellectual property laws and enforcement mechanisms in response to technological advances, we must be certain that we do not make changes that encroach on fair and lawful enjoyment of creative works and legitimate websites. However, we must also be aware of the substantial negative impacts that intellectual property violations have on American businesses and our economy.

It is the role of Congress to seek out an appropriate balance between the lawful use and enjoyment of the public while protecting the rights of the rights holder. Should these bills come before the full Senate for consideration, I will keep your thoughts in mind.

Thank you Mr. Fluff and no talk.
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