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Stitch

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Since: 08-20-04
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Posted on 07-04-06 12:06 PM Link | Quote
Watch this clip from the West Wing making reference to Christian/Catholic Bible ideologies in relation to modern life, and then decide if homosexuality is wrong. If we, those that believe in the Bible, are to abide by the many contradictory teachings of it, then everything mentioned in the West Wing's President's speech should be followed. Life would be dull.



I don't think you should be allowed to selectively follow one ideology because it suits you, and ignore the rest because they seem absurd in our society. The Bible is horribly outdated. It was written by man to serve as the greatest form of mental manipulation. It is the longest running scam.

But, I still don't believe that homosexuality is wrong. It exists in the animal kingdom, and it exists in our kingdom. If I want my Sims to be gay, then so be it. I don't know where I was going with this...


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Posted on 07-04-06 12:22 PM Link | Quote
Being who you are what makes you a human being is not wrong at all, though if what you are is a serial killer I honestly cannot say that is a just cause in society. Like you said Zabuza, the Bible is horribly outdated, the longest running scam, and a text full of contradictory teachings.

I am so glad I do not have to deal with ignorant people on a day to day basis about what is wrong and right in society.
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Posted on 07-04-06 12:50 PM Link | Quote
wow, that has some really good points. I never have believed that homosexuality is wrong. It is indeed only condemned by morals and standards set so long ago, that they are outdated.
Stitch

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Since: 08-20-04
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Posted on 07-04-06 03:59 PM Link | Quote
I know I'm gay, but let's get off the topic of me.

I just don't feel that in this society, questioning the validity of homosexuality is no longer a valid question, especially in reference to a book that is horrendously outdated.
Rogue
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Posted on 07-04-06 08:13 PM Link | Quote
Using the Bible to justify bigotry, in general, is absurd.

You don't need Martin Sheen to tell me that.

Also "abominations" according to that blasted book:
- Eating shellfish (crab, lobster, shrimp, etc)
- Women who are witches or spiritualists
- Eating anything that doesn't have a "split hoof," scales in the water, certain kinds of fowl and so on.
- Women being cleaned within 33 days after giving birth. If she bears a girl, she must not be cleaned for 66 days.
- Planting two different kinds of seed in a field.
- Trimming facial hair and/or shaving all together.
- Cleaning infectious diseases.
- People who have disease are evil and labelled unclean, yet ironically to be clean in itself is a sin.

There are many more that I'm quite sure I've forgotten.
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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 07-04-06 11:12 PM Link | Quote
Personally, the only thing I find wrong is one thing.

- You cannot develope children

Thats it, Now yes with my christian self some people are thinking "Now why isnt he saying that its wrong whole hardily?"

Shall I quote the bible? "Who am I to Judge wright from wrong?"

Its your body, you do whatever you see fit...Nuff said

Edit- If you see some obvious typos. Its because im kinda fucked up from the meds



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Posted on 07-05-06 12:38 PM Link | Quote
OWNED

srry, i had to say that

i dont understand why everybody gives a flying fuck about homosexuality, it doesnt affect them...

im just curious what causes it...is it too much estrogen in the body? who knows? But, if we figure it out, people will try to create a cure for it, which is wrong, like in xmen
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Posted on 07-05-06 02:11 PM Link | Quote
Could be an abnormal estrogen level. What I've read, it's also how the person is raised.

What people do in their bedroom doesn't concern others.


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Posted on 07-05-06 04:02 PM Link | Quote
Ok, now heres my opinion on how Homosexuality came about.

PEOPLE CHOSE TO DO IT!

I hate it when Scientists think they are right about the human brain, but cant exactly figure out the mathemitical solution to how brains compute. So I know damn sure that Homosexuality is not from estrogen in the body, for starters, I have 75% estrogen in my body, and I love the smell of pussy. Though the only thing I do thats adnormal is act a little feminine...Big deal.

Scientists are just a bunch of Romantics....

Edit- Man, I need to eat more fish.....


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Stitch

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Since: 08-20-04
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Posted on 07-05-06 04:21 PM Link | Quote
I didn't choose my homosexuality, dork. I am gay because I am. I've always loved the male form, from as young as I can remember (and that's about three years old).

I don't have an abnormal estrogen level. I don't have an abnormal testosterone level. I'm not mentally ill (while I do admit to being functionally insane). I didn't choose to be gay because I don't sexually like women, and I wasn't raised gay. I play sports, I watch sports, I don't shop till I drop (I hate the mall and brand-name clothing), I'm a gamer, I'm a career-minded person working towards computer science and other such things. I'm not a fairy, I don't embrace any of the gay stereotypes.

Many of the gay and lesbian people I know don't adhere to these societal ideals. And, by having a straight guy deduce that our sexuality and lifestyle is entirely a choice is just appalling and insulting.

By your logic, that means that you chose to be straight. Did you?

P.S: "Whole heartedly" and "abnormal".


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Posted on 07-05-06 04:23 PM Link | Quote
you dont choose to be gay, just like you didnt choose to like cat girls...you just do
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Posted on 07-05-06 05:02 PM Link | Quote
I chose to be straight, Yes.

I chose to like whatever fasinates me, Yes

I was never born this way that I am, I wanted to make my own life, and I chose to live the way I want it. Reguardless of mispellings, attractions, and or actions I take in life.

People are different I suppose. Just like people have different opinions about what I just said about people having their own decisions.


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Stitch

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Posted on 07-05-06 09:01 PM Link | Quote
So, by that ideology, a choice can be changed. That is the essence of having choices. Therefore, you could at will, change your orientation and become bi, or gay, or asexual. Since, you imply that you were born asexual, and you could very well apply any selected form of sexuality to yourself, and be set. Since, it is your choice.

Counter that.
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Posted on 07-05-06 09:38 PM Link | Quote
....Whose arguing?

My opinion on the whole situation is decisions, not by how you were born to love, to me its decisions...

If you dont like my opinion, get over it, im not going to argue with someone who cant respect others opinions
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Posted on 07-05-06 09:43 PM Link | Quote
so, according to you, you could just decide to be gay right now, and you would be? then doesnt that mean that everyone is bisexual? kinda

also, you dont really choose what you like. when you play a new game, do you sit there and think 'do i want to like this game?' no, you either like it or you dont
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Posted on 07-05-06 09:57 PM Link | Quote
Interesting comment, but yes, If I found the male human body to be attractive right now, then yes I would choose to be gay. Or Bisexual. Or Whatever. But thats just my views.

I told my family that I was feminine and they respected my acts, I choose to be feminine because I wanted to be. But do I wear girl clothings and talk like a female? No, I act like any other guy would, I do however wear whatever I want to wear, like whatever I want to like, and talk however I want to talk.

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Posted on 07-05-06 10:00 PM Link | Quote
but see, did you choose to find the male body attractive?
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Posted on 07-05-06 10:04 PM Link | Quote
I chose to find the male body NOT attractive.
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Posted on 07-05-06 10:41 PM Link | Quote
Sajin, I find one very small (only not so small) problem with your logic.

Look at how people talk to and about gays. Think about that for a while, and ask yourself this:

If it was truly a matter of choice, why would they choose a lifestyle that would without fail bring such treatment, when they could just as easily be seen as "normal"?
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Posted on 07-05-06 11:54 PM Link | Quote
I dont understand the question, What "Treatment" are you talking about?
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