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SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
From: Australia

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Posted on 10-09-05 07:25 AM Link | Quote
When I pulled my itemshop + battle hack, I noticed that activity had dropped by half. Was it my battle hack that has made this place active? Or, is it all just coincidence...?
Xeoman

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Since: 08-14-04
From: 255

Since last post: 139 days
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Posted on 10-09-05 07:39 AM Link | Quote
Maybe. Everyone seemed to like the whole Lucre thing, when I handed it out and everything, but now since it's not here and I tell people "I can't give you any", they have basically nothing to say.

So, I don't know. But it does make sense.
Rauni









Since: 08-14-04

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Posted on 10-09-05 10:42 AM Link | Quote
Few things I would like to add in toward to the activity stuff from my own opinions.

1.) You guys are not 100% funny or random. Some of you walk up to a thread and said: "Oh, this may be interesting" and view it, and when you find it pretty much low for your standards, you tend to be inactive or say: "I'm sorry to hear that." Hell, I don't even think most of us are even that funny since we are all like:

"You know, I got my degrees today."
"Oh that's cool."

I have to say: It seems to boring just saying that. There is no logical or humor or anything to that. Hell, if I was looking at Maple Story thread, as least they could include some picture about Maple Story such as: "Don't do Jump Quests, kid. They'll ruin your life! =P" or "You know, I love doing Animal Cruelty, made me wanna kill that commerial lizard for Geico."

The point is, we need to be somewhat more random because no one like a plain thoughtout and somewhat predicted conversation. It's just boring saying things that many people know your behavior would be like. (Hey, I am boring when it come to Fire Emblem but... I still find some ways to make it funny.)

2.) I don't know WHAT to say but it is obvisiously that NO ONE cares about many things and choose to do things their way (with a bend or few on rules). They preferred to do easy work. But when it come to someone like personal's problem, they pretended to get involves, and stick with the easy situation, instead of fulling understanding their feeling or position. Maybe some of them DO but it is the lack of effort or trying to uplifted the person's feeling. If you can't do much for them, as least try to be humorous. DAMN IT, PEOPLE! BE RANDOM!

3.) Battle Hack? What's so great about it? Beside you fight other people. I mean, the only option I see are:

-Changing equipment
-Money
-Fight against someone

Not alot of option, are there? Although it may contribute to this board, it won't effect everyone that instantly and soon will get somewhat boring.

4.) Something different. I don't care what people have to say, but WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT!

I am going to be bored with just straight-out boring joke answer, a battle-hack that doesn't seem much to contribute the board in so much way, something that never contribute alot to the world, and of course, no one would like their thread to be ditch without any comment/answer/random joke...

Pretty much, this is kind of reason WHY people want to leave in the first place. They thought they get cared but in the end, we pretty much say to them: "Have fun, get some bagels with cheese, hijack an airplane, rescue us during school and we shall have some tea and biscuts. Oh, and don't forget to call the fireman."

5.) Pretty much, I think this post is going to get ignored since everyone would be like: "Shanan's just stupid." "Shanan may be smart, but he is just too reckless." or "Shanan have a wild sense of humor, develop a super quick reaction that suddenly bring his downfall, don't drink water, thinks that all of us are going to die, and voila, a great reason to further ignore his billion cents. No, he will give you as least 10 thousand dollar... in pennies."

(If anyone pretty much skim or skip through my post, make sure you read #5. Oh, and you are one of those people who skipped through my post without reading it...

Spank you very much.)
shadowdude2

Koopa








Since: 08-28-05
From: California

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Posted on 10-09-05 11:55 AM Link | Quote
Shanan, you may be happy to hear that I did read the entire post (much to my brothers dismay because he want to use the computer ) and I agree with what you said, though I have yet to become board with the the forum or the people in it. Some new things would make the board more exiting.
Makura









Since: 01-22-05
From: The restaurant at the end of the universe....

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Posted on 10-09-05 12:12 PM Link | Quote
Well, I know I've been busy with school and stuff, that could be the case with other people too.

I partly agree with Shanan, we just aren't as funny and random as we once were, but you really can't blame anyone or anything for that.
Evo

Red Super Koopa
Watching you fall brings joy to my heart....








Since: 08-16-04
From: Oregon

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Posted on 10-09-05 05:47 PM Link | Quote
Hmm, Spartan thought maybe activity went down since the last hack and the board got wiped.

*shrugs* I don't think I was here for either incident. So I don't have an excuse.
Benja

Battering Bird








Since: 08-15-04
From: none of your damn business

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Posted on 10-10-05 02:09 PM Link | Quote
What I think?

Its just become..........blah.........things are too technical now, its nitpicked. Things get way down to the bottom of things, require too much thought.

There have been some things I can think about doing, but what purpose would it serve when no ones around to see?

We need newer members who are interesting, people who wouldnt just sit there and post cause they were beat into submission. New people always help to get things going.

I say a shakeup is needed somehow, dont know where to and dont know when, but something needs to be done or else it will be an inactive board.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 10-10-05 02:24 PM Link | Quote
I don't think the battle hack had anything to do with it. I never used it once....

Summer is over. People don't have endless hours to spend on the internet anymore. (Except me because who does homework in college? ^^;;

I don't think there's a humor problem. I'd probably get annoyed if a lot of threads trying to be funny but arent, started polluting the site.

When Shinra came, the board began to thrive again. Everyone loves a bit of controversy......
AlpoRaggins

Troubadour
Not so much dead.








Since: 12-11-04
From: Someday, Somewhere, Over the Rainbow

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Posted on 10-10-05 02:56 PM Link | Quote
Guess what guys!

I just got the internet in my room so I'll be more active.

Oh... wait. Its AOL.

... nevermind.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 10-10-05 03:17 PM Link | Quote
All your attempted explanations, Shanan, and I think you missed the most important one - the one Shuyin came up with.

School has started. Therefore, activity has slowed greatly. It makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
Rauni









Since: 08-14-04

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Posted on 10-10-05 03:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
Shanan, and I think you missed the most important one - the one Shuyin came up with.

School has started. Therefore, activity has slowed greatly. It makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?


Sorry, but that doesn't seem to applies very well either. You see, half of the time over the summer vacation, barely anyone would take their opporunity because they also have some jobs and such work around themselves. They usually come on whenever they have a chance to do so.

Basically, school doesn't mean much to me, even through I took Calculus (A for my progress report?) but however, most of the time, people's activity wasn't related to "school". It's simply the time where they believed they have matured and move on with whatever lesson or skill they have in mind.

Some actually bother to stay but when they see this board being somewhat inactive, they are going to feel like: "Man, this board is boring now. There is nothing to do there and I just wasted my time."

Which kinda proved my statements about the battle hack wrong or something. But let's not forget the randomness the previous board has before and everyone was all "hip" about it... Let not also forget how the hacking became a little issues where Xeogaming basically LOST some of it active member.

Plus, the reasons why I think this board is losing some activity is mostly related to:

- Lazy or not ready to work on "our project".
- Lacks of humor or random funness from us.
- May be busy at some point in life where they may not have enough time for this board. (School, job, life problem, etc., just because they are inactive doesn't mean it is entirely school's problem. )
- Latest problem or issues that this board has from its history.
- Popularity or "Fame rate".
- And most importantly, lack of movitation or positive environment from us.

Hell, there are many factor to applies here, Tamarin, because other board tends to keep it activity since it is very well known or become somewhat a place where they contributate to the world. Hell, we could barely keep an update of the board unless Zabuza would tell us about the upcoming video game but that pretty much going to get him FIRED. We don't want that.

~ My two cents.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 10-10-05 04:07 PM Link | Quote
It's a waste of effort, since you're already convinced long before you even post that you cannot possibly be wrong. But, I may as well...


- Lazy or not ready to work on "our project".
- Lacks of humor or random funness from us.
- May be busy at some point in life where they may not have enough time for this board. (School, job, life problem, etc., just because they are inactive doesn't mean it is entirely school's problem. )
- Latest problem or issues that this board has from its history.
- Popularity or "Fame rate".
- And most importantly, lack of movitation or positive environment from us.


I'm gonna do this all at once.

- I'm sorry, but this made no sense.
- As Shuyin said, it's worse when a lot of threads are trying to be funny.
- Hm. And if the place was more active before school started - which it was - then it can be blamed on a job. Riiiiight
- You make no sense.
- You continue to make no sense.
- And you've been bitching about a lack of a positive environment. In fact, as far as I can tell you're the ONLY one complaining about it.
Benja

Battering Bird








Since: 08-15-04
From: none of your damn business

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Posted on 10-10-05 04:59 PM Link | Quote
I will say this though, i didnt throw my hands up in the air when the battle hack was taken down, sorry syntax, love ya and all, buuuuttt that probably isnt the reason.

I know this board can post like no other, but theres gotta be a reason to do it. Like shin-ra, when they came, people posted like mad and people came together. There needs to be something to spark interest again. Plus, we could use more active people like.........dare I say.........more females, there are alot more males then females and it could help even the balance here. I say a shakeup needs to happen or else itll be doldrums from here on.
Rauni









Since: 08-14-04

Since last post: 763 days
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Posted on 10-10-05 07:37 PM Link | Quote
Okay, Tamarin, I am going to speak in la ze french voice, which you may to have to pardon me.

1.) Zet's see... If you are having a hard time to read my post, may I suggest to further ignore it and pretend you never read it? It would be more time-saving on your side of the bargain but with all due respect, the first one mean that for those people who are suppose to work on the project for a long time, and yet never finished or got started on it, many people will see dat everyone is not doing a good or effort work.

This may show that there is a good reason why other people think they should not join the board.

2.) Randomness jokes are valuable since not just any passing guests take a look at it, but laughter saves many lives, am I correct? Many people do not like any dull or boring jokes since it make us look like a boring board to be at. Since jokes are valuable to very much like to Role-playing, story telling, sim-battling and several other thing that comes to mind. Not only that jokes can reveal the good-nature behavior but it will even make other people feel... oh how should I say this... looking at an well-respected and good sense of humor board.

Unless you never understand anything, it is probably you never cared to reach a understanding and preferred things your way.

3.) Just because people are being inactive, doesn't mean they are having school problem. Heck, many people feels that they need to focus on their lives which is more important to spend over the board. If they believed that the board is no longer assistable to them, I suggest to leave them alone since they may come back later, to find what they need and we will be polite.

Not only that, but school? What's about our graduation, or ze summer plan, or which college we want to go? Let's us worry on what we should do, and mind our business. Afterall, ze are many reasons why people have to be inactive to get something in ze point of our lives.

4.) Just because hacking became an old new, many people still would be feared of losing everything again. Why, you tried to help this board once and everyone got mad at you since you "hacked" it. Everyone is getting tired of it and probably thought it would be better to spend away from it. If you don't think this is the main problem, the reason why I add this is because after the 2nd hacked time, there was barely any activity and many people has already left.

Oh, and let us not forget that we are growing up fast and there are time when we must go on. Is it true, Tamarin, or should we give up our lives to this board, hoping to get something better then this?

5.) The reason why fame or popularity rate is important because usually, many people want a well-known board. If they see something important, and enjoy that particular activity, they may considered about it and who knows? They may ended up joining that popular board. As I see it, Xeogaming is no place where everyone say: "It is ze greatest board ever. I even have a coffee of Java Joe there, people are very polite, and they gave me a free bagel as being part of ze customer."

Unless there is a reason why Xeogaming shouldn't be a well-known place, I suggest to provide something that make the other people or viewer feel more respected then other board on their way.

6.) Okay, so your point is? It is quite true that you could not realize that what this board is providing. People want a well-respected environment, with something that will keep on until they achieve their full result. Unless you are very smart or respectable person, I doubt that you know less of what we are not doing here. In fact, you may even prove that you could, probablities, give more reasons of why should people not join this board, since it made YOU look like you are harassessing me now.

Nobody would like to be bitched at, and of course, also want their opinion or their view to be understood. I have a huge doubt that if you said that you fully understood what I am saying because, in my view, it looks like you want to have things your way.

Not to be rude, but I think that it is time for you to be fully aware of the people's view and considers every possiblities to achieve a result where many people will be completely satifisied with BOTH your and their idea. I don't see anything that you provides much, Tamarin.

Unless you have any furthering argument, I suggest that you and I should end it here, before we get into any meaning or ze trouble that we don't want.

And if you refused to read all of this (unless the whole thing does not make any sense to you), should I call ze FBI or should I bring out ze french pizza and have some tea?
Jity Horo

Beast








Since: 01-01-05

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Posted on 10-10-05 09:00 PM Link | Quote
I just want to get my two cents in. I agree with Tamarin on the fact that school has started again. I really don't think work had anything to do with it. You'd think that people would have the same hours during the summer that they have during the school year.

Second I thought the that Tamarin had been cleared of anything involving him "hacking" the board. So thats out. I also thought "random things" passed as spam. Also doesn't Spam=Bad.

And the thread that Tamarin linked to was a good point. You seem to have the only problems at all with the board. You seemed down right mad & jealous that Levithan had a chance of becoming a judge. Also, somebody brought it up earlier can't find it, contreversy(sp?) brings people together. This is one of those things. Now all we need is a lot of people bitching at each other and ta-da activity.
Rauni









Since: 08-14-04

Since last post: 763 days
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Posted on 10-10-05 09:48 PM Link | Quote
With some points taken out with respect, Jity, I must also explain back as well...

True, I did became jealous when Leviathan became a judge quickly, but If I remember correctly... He has been missing for a long time right now. So if I have to say that if you quickly jumped to the conclusion on picking someone who are experienced for that already, how do you know that they are going to be there for like... one tournament variable? See how we quickly pick out people, decided to pick one guy, expected him to do some work, and all of the sudden, he's missing?

Bravo. You just miss that point. It is not going to help you.

Oh, random things as long as it keep its humor isn't "spam". Just saying like "I got my period." is just rather pointless if there is nothing good to contributes to the board. Pretty much, sometime the staff never contributes much but that's just me.

And I was pretty sure that Tamarin was cleared of his "hacking" incident. But you failed to notice the point I was refering to. No one like a hacked board and feared of being banned, from a hacker.

Okay, so what you are saying is that you works school 14 hours a day. That's nice excuses but please, be a little more specific then that. Why, take a look at Leviathan. He does not have school and also have work to do. Why do you think we hired Leviathan to be the judge and expect him to do some works? Well, now you can say that it was "school" that keeping his away. (Unless he is in college but that's pretty much a different story.)

Pretty much, ze school seem pretty much everyone reason's for inactivity, when clearly it was somewhat inactive all day long, including summer time. Jity, what I mean is that:

Clearly, just being you are in school doesn't mean that it is a good reason to be "inactive". Like I said before: There are several other things in life that we are all growing up, we are all moving on, and that we are all old enough to be more "mature" about things in our life. And this is a prefect good reason why the board seem so much inactive as it is right now...

Probably you and Tamarin did even notice the different activity when school started, but the activity we have now is pretty much the same as we have before. It may be easy for you guys but I believed you need to have a closer look on how long have we been "active" for the last few months, even during the summer.

Hell, it takes a WHILE. There are people who STILL have to deal with their lives and STILL have to work their butt off. Just don't point that School = Inactivity. That's just like saying: "The dog ate my homework."

Oh, and that thread? I don't get whatever TAMARIN is pointing out, but if you think I am some sort of phycho who doesn't know what life is, just say it in a straight cold fact because I will NOT stand here and see that you should believes whatever Tamarin said and does not have any COLD HARD proof. Not to forget but what about the freedom of speech. Are you saying I can't say anything about my feeling? Even through it could help the board much? Oh wait... THIS MUST WHY IT WAS GETTING INACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE! I probably even knew that stuff like this is going to happened, just like how every other damn events just occured!

No, I am getting sick of YOU (Jity Horo) and TAMARIN just for jumping to conclusion, believing that I am overreacting so damn much or making up story. Not only that you cares less about this board, but it just reveals the types of unrespectable PEOPLE you are. Since they could look into other people's personal feeling felt somewhat bad about it, you guys could just say: "Oh, to anyone reading this, this guy is mentally ill. Please ignore him."

See? This is where YOU are getting ME at. You stack so much lies on me, knowing that I can never be trusted, so that you guys could be pretty much the boss of me, or blackmailling me if you feel like it. I'm tired of YOU or Tamarin to bitch at me because of who I am. If you don't like it, then JUST FUCKING LEAVE ME ALONE! Got that?

I am tired of people who agrees and discrimiate against someone's feeling and/or personal option.
Jedi Master Desroth

Priest








Since: 08-24-04
From: Macomb

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Posted on 10-10-05 10:14 PM Link | Quote
Yall swear to much, it harms both yall's intelligence (no offense to either for their word choices). All it is now adays is the same dribble... Blah blah, revoluiton gay; blah blah, that game sucks blah blah bitch fights over nothing

I think we have a serious case of cabin fever. I say Xeo should close this site for a month and bring it up at the end of the month. We all need some time away from here to calm down and relax, see the sun again, stop eating ramen for a day to get mcdonalds, etc.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

Since last post: 3182 days
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Posted on 10-10-05 10:23 PM Link | Quote
I'm going to ignore that last post.....

Anywho. Shanan we had a nice long talk about this, but I see you didn't take anything I said into consideration.

I'm just going to bring up two points right now.

1.) No one except you believes there is negativity problem on the board. You claim you 'feel' this. But if noone else feels this animosity, chances are you're making it up.

2.) Random jokes will not necessarily do the board any good. We want the board to be taken seriously to some extent. Polluting the board with random things (which Crazy Nonsense and the 'other' forum were made for.) won't be beneficial at all.

The only problem this board has at the moment is a small streak of inactivty.
Evo

Red Super Koopa
Watching you fall brings joy to my heart....








Since: 08-16-04
From: Oregon

Since last post: 5326 days
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Posted on 10-11-05 12:23 AM Link | Quote
I've been kind of ignoring this thread because I knew it would go off into a big argurment (Debate Shrine anyone?)...

But as far as negativity, there is a little tension between certain members only in certain threads because people tend to take a personal view on what someone is saying rather than read the post for what it is. I believe I'm guilty of that...

Ok. I'm leaving now.
Xeoman

Ball and Chain Trooper
Administrator








Since: 08-14-04
From: 255

Since last post: 139 days
Last activity: 31 days
Posted on 10-11-05 07:25 AM Link | Quote
I kind of have to disagree with the school idea. Even during the summer, there wasn't too much posting. 146 total posts on June 10.

But again, I am comparing things to the first couple of months when Xeogaming first started ... when we had an easy 300+ everyday, all quality, and everything.

Anyways, I'm not closing down this site because of this (the activity is LOW, but it's not -nothing-), and this site will be around for quite some time (I am about to make another payment for the hosting, and as you've seen our hosting is great now).

I'm basically in agreement with Benja here. We just need fresh members. It seems like the Shrina people left, and even though that brought up boiled heads, in a sense I kind of liked having them around. Activity was going up.

But really, we could use some new, people that have never even heard of this place, and became active. (I mean, we have been getting these members, but you know what I mean).

It's good to see a few returning members from MoD come back, like Evo (had to pick on ya ), but there's still quite a few members who haven't come back. If they did, surely that would help too.

So yeah, like Benja said, even though we have 300+ registered users, 70% of them haven't even posted, and aren't that active. We could really use just some new good newbies if you ask me.


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