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AlpoRaggins

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Since: 12-11-04
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Posted on 07-30-05 11:56 AM Link | Quote
Emo is an overused term that has lost all meaning, as the incredible amount of followers have worn the lines between goth, punk, and indie so far down that it all has been watered down into one large confused culture. I don't really dislike or like it. It finally has all become the same. At least where I am.
Shuyin

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Posted on 07-30-05 03:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Johnny Literal
Emo is an overused term that has lost all meaning, as the incredible amount of followers have worn the lines between goth, punk, and indie so far down that it all has been watered down into one large confused culture. I don't really dislike or like it. It finally has all become the same. At least where I am.


I concure whole heartedly. All three stereotypes are beginning to merge. And it's becoming trendy. Which is against what the essence of punk/goth/ and indie are.

I'm peachy being unstereotypable.
Xeoman

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Posted on 07-30-05 08:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shuyin
Originally posted by Johnny Literal
Emo is an overused term that has lost all meaning, as the incredible amount of followers have worn the lines between goth, punk, and indie so far down that it all has been watered down into one large confused culture. I don't really dislike or like it. It finally has all become the same. At least where I am.


I concure whole heartedly. All three stereotypes are beginning to merge. And it's becoming trendy. Which is against what the essence of punk/goth/ and indie are.

I'm peachy being unstereotypable.


Now that I think about it, a general "emo" kind of sounds like a mix between and goth and a punk.

I don't really lable goth's. To me, a goth is just someone who happens to dress in that kind of style, but I wouldn't call them a goth, since like I said, most of my friends who dress like a normal "goth" are actually really nice people, and smart, and most of you would probably think elsewise.

It's really hard to explain my stance on a "goth", so yeah.

In short I'd say emo's are mainly people mourning for attention, like it would help them or something.


(Last edited by Xeolord on 07-30-05 11:21 PM)
Vel Belmont

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Since: 07-18-05

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Posted on 07-30-05 08:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Well, "emo" has been covered fairly well. As for goth... well, true goths are pretty hard to find anymore. Here is the urban dictionary definition of Goth, which I find rather accurate.

1. Goth
Someone who likes the darker side of things. They usually listen to death metal and goth music, such as Dismember and Bauhaus. Marilyn Manson is NOT goth. He's just...weird. Real goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see at Hot Topic. Goths are fun to be around and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. Goths don't all dress alike either. They like to create their own unique style. Goths are also very intelligent and creative. A lot of them are writers and artists. Goths DON'T envy the popular people. They are what they are because it makes them happy. Goths would rather stay who they are and be among the so called "freaks" than be like everyone else and be popular. They understand that there are more important things in life than popularity, and usually succeed in life while the popular ones don't become much of anything.

If someone becomes "goth" because they couldn't get any friends or are depressed and angry all the time, they are most likely a poser.


Will you marry me???? *Holds Ring*

As for being on Topic, that sums it up pretty much. Hot topic has indeed ruined the good name, Goth, for it is now a twisted version of sucicidal wannabees who prefer to be dead then living. Come on now, do us all a favor people. The next time you see a person and they say they are "emo" give them a razor and show them how to use it, do us all a favor, stop your complaining about life and BE HAPPY!

I, have been a 'goth' for ghode knows how long. Do I dress it? Yes, why? I like baggey pants.
1) I hate it when my balls rub together
2) Tight pants are annoying to look at, I dont wanna see some camal hump from a guy wearing tight pants.
I like band shirts, why?
1) Pride in music, I love music, cant get enough of it. I listen 24/7.
Why Black?
1) Its a nuetral color, doesnt stand out that much and I dont always wear black. I like reds, purples and blues as well.

Emo of Today....1 band I only like that is considered Emo: My Chemical Romance.
1) Singer is hot
2) The song Helena reminds me of a freind
3) They arent all into the whiney music thing, good lyrics and a nice sound.
The Hated Part of the Band:
4) Their bass player is the zenith in which I hate all Emo things. He is trully EMO.


(Last edited by Vel Belmont on 07-30-05 11:32 PM)
Xeoman

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Posted on 07-30-05 08:33 PM Link | Quote
I, have been a 'goth' for ghode knows how long. Do I dress it? Yes, why? I like baggey pants.

That is from the book of truth.

I have a friend who says basically the exact same thing. One day people just asked him why he dresses the way he does (normal shirts usually, but he usually wears the big black pants, sometimes with chains, etc), and he basically just simply said "Because it's comfortable."

And yeah, I think Vel summed it up pretty well, a "goth" and "emo" are two entirely different entities.
Skold









Since: 10-10-04
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Posted on 08-10-05 06:57 PM Link | Quote
And now, for the follow up...
Originally posted by Boondock Saint
What i cant stand is gay emo haircuts, you know basically every guy on myspace with his hair spikey in the back and covering on eye in the front.


TRUE THAT!!!


Especially hair cuts like this guy!:

Douch bag


...What a fag...

He must be "emo."
Whatever the hell that may mean seeing as how the dictionary can't even make up a neutral definition...

SO SCREW 'EM ALL! ANY ONE WHO DRESSES LIKE THAT IS NOT AS COOL AS ME AND MY ORIGINALITY!
Wankers...

Originality is dead...

There has been, and always will be "hipsters."

Calling someone "emo" is almost as naive as calling someone a "poser."

Catagorizing a subculture, then complaining about it's existance is an ignorant contradiction to ones own person.

Figure it out. It will come in due time...

But in the mean time, don't in any way confuse this passage as a defense statement for the "emoXcore" subculture/genre.
I loath whinney brats and bad music. To put the two together entitles me to a vomit session.
Either that, or a circle jerk. Depends on which one comes first.
Haha, "comes."

Wow, I love 3rd grade humor.

~James


P.S.
When you say "emo-kids," I think you refer to "scene-kids," as your description is a little to broad.
If you want a more detailed out-look on the subculture known as the "scene" check this link out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo#History
It points out the cliche aspects of it all; and most of them are true, alas.

As well as a correct, non-biased definition as provided by WIKIPEDIA:
Emo (an abbreviation of emotive hardcore) is a term now broadly used to describe almost any form of guitar-driven alternative rock that expresses emotions beyond traditional punk's limited emotional palette of alienation and rage. The abbreviation comes from the word emotive. Most recently (from 2002 to present) bands with more lyric driven songs have been mistakingly called emo because their lyrics seem to be depressing and focus on hatred, mostly dealing with relationships. Actually, these bands only take on one side of emo, not all of them. 'Emo' is also used to describe fans of this genre, most commonly teenagers. The term itself originated as a way to describe the music of the mid-1980s D.C. scene and associated bands, mainly Rites of Spring and Embrace, as well as bands such as Moss Icon, and Dag Nasty. The term addressed both the way the band connected with its audience, as well as its tendency to deal more with topics of personal and relationship politics than with the standard themes of rock music, although none of the members of the originating bands invented the term itself, nor purposely applied it to themselves. The label was applied by outside critics or journalists and many acts and fans consider the word itself a pejorative. In recent times however, moreso than with most other musical genres, the term "emo" has been subject to social perception above objective guidelines. What bands are or aren't emo is therefore highly subjective and contested amongst those with an interest in the genre. As a result the term emo has two main uses; as a label for the genre outlined above and as a multi-purpose adjective and umbrella term used to describe a large cross-section of music and popular culture.


(Last edited by Skold on 08-10-05 10:12 PM)
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