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Rogue
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Posted on 01-04-09 03:49 AM Link | Quote


It's funny how several people I know have listed copies of the Watchmen graphic novel among their Christmas presents this year.
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Posted on 01-04-09 04:02 AM Link | Quote
I posted that two posts ago...
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Posted on 01-04-09 04:10 AM Link | Quote
It's hard to tell with how much of the same footage keeps cycling around.

Wonder if WB finally got anywhere in the case against 20th Century Fox who's insisting the movie will not be allowed to be screened.
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Posted on 01-04-09 04:56 AM Link | Quote
Well, FOX owns the rights to the movie. Don't see why they would keep Warner Brothers from releasing it, though, no benefit. They'll just try and get a cut. Some evidence is that xbox360a.org just posted the achievement list for the Xbox Live Arcade game.
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Posted on 01-04-09 06:56 PM Link | Quote
I figured Fox just waited until WB had it in the can to screw them over. To be fair, because they indeed have the rights, they probably should get a cut (or at least just enough to grease the wheels so WB can release it when they've promised to).
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Posted on 01-04-09 11:28 PM Link | Quote
Well, they're trying to push back the release date for some reason... I think it has to do with Harry Potter.
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Posted on 01-07-09 12:28 PM Link | Quote
To be honest, I think this could stomp out a Harry Potter sequel were they placed on the same weekend; however, Watchmen would definitely not make as much money if it were the top thing coming out one weekend.

I suppose if it comes out alongside a bunch of romantic comedies and a kids' flick about the latest American Idol, it would rake in pretty big.

Off topic, it's hilarious that Spirit's not doing so well. $9 million on its opening? Ha!
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Posted on 01-08-09 02:30 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
Off topic, it's hilarious that Spirit's not doing so well. $9 million on its opening? Ha!


Knew it. Any movie that has built it's hype off of a visual style that was used in another popular movie has no chances. Oh, and a name from said movie that everyone associates with it, although he had little to actually do with the movie itself and has no prior film experience and wouldn't be directing if it weren't for his name.

Dongma?
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Posted on 01-08-09 04:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HAL 9000
Oh, and a name from said movie that everyone associates with it, although he had little to actually do with the movie itself and has no prior film experience and wouldn't be directing if it weren't for his name.

Dongma?

He took that honorary co-directorship with Rodriguez far too seriously.
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Posted on 01-11-09 08:28 PM Link | Quote
The Japanese trailer came out last week with some footage that wasn't used for the U.S. released one.

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Posted on 01-11-09 08:35 PM Link | Quote
Some? That was, like, 90% new footage.

Also, I'm convinced that the Watchmen script that I've got isn't the one for this movie, despite it being credited to one of the two people that wrote the current one.
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Posted on 01-31-09 03:07 AM Link | Quote
A lot of new viral images are being spread from this Flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenewfrontiersman/

Empire Magazine is also showing off some exclusive portraits of the cast: http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=24083

And as Photoshop'd as some of these look, they're apparently putting out licensed costumes: http://watchmencomicmovie.com/012609-watchmen-movie-costumes.php

So... how long before we can get a copy of "Watchmen Babies in V for Vacation"?
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Posted on 02-18-09 11:46 AM Link | Quote
So I've got my midnight IMAX screening tickets, do you?

Also some clips from the movie have made it online (Ozymandias):


There's another here (Nite Owl and Comedian, briefly): http://www.totalfilm.com/news/world-exclusive-watchmen-clip

And another one here (Rorschach and what appears to be the second Nite Owl): http://movies.sky.com/new-watchmen-clip


EDIT: I suddenly realized rewatching the first clip that the man with the glasses is supposed to be the second Nite Owl.


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Posted on 02-18-09 03:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
EDIT: I suddenly realized rewatching the first clip that the man with the glasses is supposed to be the second Nite Owl.

You had to rewatch it to get that?

Also, I should probably preorder tickets as well.
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Posted on 02-18-09 06:57 PM Link | Quote
I was concentrating more on Ozymandias, and I'd forgotten that Nite Owl went to see him.

I should have also noticed that the video was titled "Dan visits Veidt," but then again I've revolved my life around discovering the obvious.
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Posted on 02-20-09 02:33 AM Link | Quote
Another scene found its way onto YouTube:


A piece on the two Silk Spectres:


EDIT: Just for lulz, Dr. Manhattan condoms: http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/02/the_end_is_truly_fing_nigh.php


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Posted on 02-22-09 12:49 AM Link | Quote
So... just a question... but do you think it would be better to read Watchmen before or after seeing the movie? I tend to wait til after ever since the Harry Potter movies made me want to hit the screenwriters.
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Posted on 02-22-09 02:24 AM Link | Quote
I actually reread it yesterday, just for shits, since I read it like 8 years ago and needed to be reminded of a lot of the little things that happened.

I'll be honest, while watching the trailers, I saw some things here and there and didn't quite remember if they were in the book. Now that it's fresh in my mind, I can tell you a lot of the similarities are uncanny.

Now as to whether you should read it or see it first, I really can't tell.

I didn't read 300 until after seeing the movie, and I still appreciated the film just the same. Same with several of the Sin City books. They were surprisingly close and reading the books afterward helped me appreciate the movies based on them.

Now, since this is an Alan Moore book, I guess there are some advantages to seeing the film first. If you were mad about the deviations the Harry Potter movies took from the books, you'll be PISSED with From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and to a certain extent V for Vendetta. True they've gotten better as they went along... I take that back LXG was awful, but yeah the movies tend to greatly deviate.

Moore HATES any movie based on his work no matter how close to the original it is, and he's already voiced his disapproval of this movie.

Now what was I getting at?

I think reading it is good, but you might get mad with the variations and things they had to leave out for time and to prevent confusion.

I guess it all depends on whether or not you want to be surprised in the movie theater.

EDIT: A scene of Silk Spectre II and the Nite Owl helping break Rorschach out of jail made it online: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/02/21/check-out-the-exclusive-watchmen-clip-from-spoilers/


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Posted on 02-24-09 03:13 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, I have noticed that if I read things after that I tend to be okay with the movie, since when I saw it I had no expectations. Usually if it is close, I am fine with it. Even on the rare occasion that I am ok if it does differ a bit from the book (Stardust), it is when the change does not detract from the overall story greatly or I just like the change.
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Posted on 02-24-09 10:38 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Yeah, I have noticed that if I read things after that I tend to be okay with the movie, since when I saw it I had no expectations. Usually if it is close, I am fine with it. Even on the rare occasion that I am ok if it does differ a bit from the book (Stardust), it is when the change does not detract from the overall story greatly or I just like the change.

And that's the great thing about Gaiman. He's so fucking nice. When a lot of critics were knocking the Stardust movie saying things like, "Gaiman's pissed that they changed the story so much, at least I would assume he's pissed," I laughed. I heard him say firsthand that he loved the new take on it. He compared the book and movie to Earth I and Earth II (DC comics reference to there being two different realities).

Even when news about Coraline was still at a trickle, and I'd heard they added a character to the story to act as Coraline's best friend, Neil went on TV to say that he thought this change was great. He reasoned that viewers would probably think she's crazy with how much she talks to herself in the story, so they added a little boy to listen to her.

But Gaiman is a very flexible author. He can laugh at mistakes here and there, and still enjoy something based on his work.

Now his two friends, Sir Terry Pratchett and Alan Moore, on the other hand...

I can say this right now, based on the ads, scenes, and so on that I've seen for this movie, it has the look down solid (the costumes for a couple characters aren't exact, but that's OK. Ozymandias doesn't resemble the one in the book, but that's OK). So far, I can say that there's one line added that wasn't in the book, and the scene I posted with Ozymandias and Dan talking was actually between Ozymandias and another character, but in the end that's probably OK. Some conversations happen in slightly different places, but that's all right.

I'm curious to see if they excluded any characters, as Zack Snyder did supposedly cut some pieces for time that are getting their own straight-to-video released (like the Black Freighter storyline).

I mean, Snyder appeared to be fighting for the right to make this movie the way Alan Moore envisioned it. He fought really hard just to get Nixon back into the movie as well as other pieces, saying it wouldn't be Watchmen without them.

So I guess what I'm saying is, it looks like we won't be disappointed with this one.

See it first, or maybe read it first. Like I said it's all based on if you want to have that surprised feeling when you see the movie. Getting surprised at the theater's always fun, gets the blood pumping. No fun if you already know what's coming.


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