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| Cyro Xero Posts: 1172/1779 |
With me. I have a layout mainly to advertise some stuff about myself. As you can see, I mention trance music in my sig and a have a link to my favorite ambient music site. In fact, my sig is tecno-ish. That's me. I love techno and raves. And the color blue. I like to have my layout look cool, but I'm not gonna quit my day job over it. I have tried making a different layout a long time ago involving a scrolling box on a green display screen image. That would have looked great, but I couldn't quite position it right. Then there's my Billboard layout idea, something that would have a plethora of dumb advertisments on it (credit card offers, viagra, mortgage quotes, etc.), but it would only look cool if my username were Billboard.
I guess my point is that some people don't really care about having grand layouts. Other just don't have the ability. They have the content they want and that's it. I sort of fall under the same category. People, don't argue about this. Really, there are better things to argue about. |
| True Flight Posts: 1691/5245 |
Originally posted by DarknessOriginally posted by Zabuza Darkness if you want to talk about your layout. Fix the opacity on your box. I can barely read your text. |
| Banned Posts: 1232/-3459 |
Meh, I personally beleive that my layout kicks ass, and if y'all don't like it then that's your problem. ^^
*cries, alone* ... |
| Darkness Posts: 327/365 |
Originally posted by Zabuza That's not fair, becuase some people can't make layout's very well (and mine is an example of that) I would gladly learn if I had the time, but I don't so I would gladly accept help if someone offers. |
| Xeoman Posts: 3221/11757 |
Duel of Fates. |
| 天国JOE Posts: 796/2999 |
Originally posted by ElaraRead the first post. I can't see other bitching without suggestions on how to make them better (okay, a few. But that was AFTER people started to heat it up, not taking the critisism so well) Now, I can almost foresee a repeat here. The whole 'just disable them' arguement runs dry, because I'm sure the ones who spoke of layouts bieng lame already thought of that, and perhaps already done it. Actually, some had already said they already disabled/blocked layouts. (Zem, Tanis for example.) I also believe that the 'complainers' also think what the post SAYS is the most important thing in a post, they just think the layouts could be better. This topic should just rest. It's not even Crazy Nonsense. Well, after looking over things, I guess it kinda is. |
| AlpoRaggins Posts: 554/793 |
I've never had a problem with people's layouts unless they did something really dumb, like had gold text on a yellow background. The only other thing that bothered me was small, white text on bright colored post backgrounds. I haven't seen anything like that on this board in a long time. Seriously, count your blessings, it could be a hell of a lot worse.
I could see your stance if any of these layouts were actually bad, but they aren't. I think mine is good, when I've got the right picture. For the last week I had a terrible repeating picture, but even that wasn't all that bad. Now that I've changed back, I'd even go so far as to say my layout is my favorite one on the board. It's all a preference thing, so I'll repeat the fact, block the layouts if you don't like them, or just make new ones. You did a good job on the new ones, I think you (Zem and Sion) should be elected the resident layout busters and help people fix them up. You could have a subsection in the art forum called "Freakout for the Layouts" (sorta playing off the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy name) and you could message people and tell them "HAY HAY HAY, We're gonna make your posts FABULOUS!" and take their layout and... make it good. Or Pimp My Layout, whichever is better. |
| Elara Posts: 2779/9736 |
I state what I said in the last one: You want to bitch about layouts? Offer to make better ones then, otherwise disable the ones that you just can't stand to look at and quit complaining. I've seen layouts here that I don't like, but I concentrate on the content of the post, not if the layout has a scrollbar or not (or some other trivial thing).
People complain about mine being too small. I know it's too small, but I don't know how to change it, and I'm working on getting a new layout anyway so I don't really give a fuck. It's readable, that is all that matters. Scrollbar? Which would you rather have: scrollbar or repeating image. I don't know about you, but I will happily take a scrollbar any day. |
| True Flight Posts: 1615/5245 |
You know I find it HILLLARIOUS when someone fusses about a layout and a layout just HAPPENS to be stretching the page. |
| Stitch Posts: 1083/2785 |
I lost your soapbox. I moved it from under the stairs and don't know where I left it. I think you needed it just then.
*Pulls out squishy jell-o type thing to stand on.* I never really understood why layouts were so important. We are just reading what's in them anyway. The only issue I ever really have is putting the wrong color font over the wrong colored background. That's it. All layouts are disabled on my end. *Sinks into jell-o.* Dammit. |
| Rogue Posts: 1282/11918 |
What is with people and this topic?
It's like there are now 3 issues you can't discuss over the dinner table: religion, politics, and layouts. I did always think sex talk with Mom and Dad and graphic descriptions of vomit, gore, and shit should be included, but I didn't coin the quote. I don't understand why it also must always be in question. We have options like "Block this user's layout" for a reason. And you people wonder why flame wars erupt over these threads. First off, I congratulate you on the "No offense" bit. Obviously you aren't trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but people do tend to feel hurt when someone makes a statement, in public, that can be construed as a personal attack. It's human nature when one's embarassed. Secondly, in that past thread, no one asked for the criticism, but they got it, so of course the fur is gonna fly. It was one ego versus all the others. Just please take into consideration before any of you start tearing into each other over something menial like layouts, if you care enough to have them changed, PM the offending parties. A public thread is almost unnecessary. |
| Cairoi Posts: 1072/3807 |
Originally posted by Cairoi Zem, I didn't mean it. I was angry as I typed it. By posting in that manner you've already disproved the what I was saying if I hadn't actually been using it to represent how some here were saying it. Don't worry, I hold no vendetta against the site, only some members on it. Namely, people who discriminate... Don't worry, man.  |
| Zem Posts: 18/21 |
The thing is, no one ever said it was the end of the world. Looks like two or three people were independently driven to comment on the layouts. I happen to agree: I don't like the layouts. I just went and blocked all the unreadable ones.
But I don't think it was unreasonable for someone to make a thread about it. I do think DS_Master's post was unreasonable. But it seems that people on both of these occasions took the comments far too personally and lashed out defensively, which in the case of Tanis's thread caused him to lash back. Well... basically: use whatever layout you want, so long as the board allows it. but it's not as unreasonable as some of you seem to think for someone to say they dislike your layout. the highly personal comments on both sides were generally unwarranted, and weakened both arguments. lastly, I have some issues with your post in particular, Cairoi: Originally posted by Cairoi Well, you couch it in "If I were discriminating, this is what I would say," but you still say it like you mean it, and I get the feeling you do mean it. Acmlm's isn't a group of people who align themselves by some common belief or something, it's just a message board where a bunch of people post. Some people who post there also post at this message board. It's all just a bunch of people. It doesn't make sense to talk about people who go to this or that message board in terms of a group, because there's no common quality that's required for them to post on either message board. This is a baseless generalization. Originally posted by Cairoi This is excellent advice for all parties involved. |
| Cairoi Posts: 1068/3807 |
This is such a stupid thing to hate. I come onto this board not to go OOOH, what a pretty layout, I'm here for the fucking text the layout merely makes pretty. If you're so ignorant as to decide "Oh that person's layout is ugly, I won't respond to them." Then maybe we'd rather not have you on this board.
That's called discrimination, basing a hatred on outward appearances without judging the person themselves. I don't ever consider people who discriminate equals, because you can't be open minded enough to understand everything. IGNORE THEM. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WILL KILL YOU. Almost everyone from Aclm's who comes here brings unneeded hatred towards our layouts. If you wanted me to say something about all Aclm's members discriminately, I'd say they're posts are always incredibly small and filled with horrible grammar. They rely on their pretty layouts to make their posts not appear to be blatant spam. And you know what? If you fit that catagory, I won't listen or respond to you. That's basically what you're doing. CALM DOWN. Either offer bases for people to make their own layouts with, work with the people about their layouts, or block it. It's not the end of the world. |
| 01001000 Posts: 611/944 |
Post Layout rules are here
Just block the damn layout, talk to the user of the layout without blowing up, and just in the name of all that is (Un)Holy, stfu. A lot of the layouts on this board do suck hairy man balls, hell I don't even like mine that much, however since I'm reading a book about HTML, XHTML, and CSS I'll be able to make simple yet refined layouts when I've finished the book. |
| Bitmap Posts: 1539/7838 |
Originally posted by Sajin of the Gorotto Sea Originally posted by DSM Why are you mad? I thanked you on my post for helping me out dude, I never ignored you nor did I never NOT listen to you...No need to get your panties in a wad, I understand that the contents of the post are whats important...not the picture. And if it still blows, why did you even bother helping me out? But still, I think its a great improvement...I cant say anything on other people's oponions...if you think it Sucks, im not offended. Originally posted by DSM And how did I steal your link? I never saw in the first place that says "DS_Masters link"...you were never involved in that "Prediciment" in the first place...Chill out. Originally posted by DSM The purpose of having layouts are for show, it would be pretty booring if everyone had the same layout...It shows the user's charactics...If someone is either offended or dosent like the user's layout. They can block it, Its called Freedom, Get used to it. Originally posted by DSM Duh...Quit stating the obvious. If you couldent tell, Xeo dosent have a picture ( He does from time to time...but that shows his love for mature things). His layout is fine...Hell, alot of users dont have pictures in their layouts...see the above quote on why it DOSENT have to have a picture... Originally posted by DSM Protest if you want to, but im sure no one is going to get rid of it...This is Xeo's board...If he wants me to change it, I will be much ablogied to do so... I wont however change my layouts to another person's standard...If someone tells me that I need to change it to their standards (In terms of pictures and quoting) I wont do it...if its the scrollbar coding, I will be happy to do so... Originally posted by DSM Lemmie quote you for a second... Originally posted by DSM I say, if you can still read the text, its still a post...No matter if you can read it or not. Its still a post... Originally posted by DSM Hey, you actually answered your own question about scrollbars! Congradulations! I was gonna say, the main reason why we have scrollbars is so that our images wont repeat itself...But I saw that and actually applauded! Originally posted by DSM I did read it...Im like Zabuza, Cept I dont think my layout is crap because I couldent do it any better. True made my layout and im thankful that she did, She goes through alot of time making other users here layouts for alot of people. Im sure she dosent like it when people from another board come on here bitching on her layouts that she spent countless hours on for many people...For free. You are just used to other's expectations...Welcome to Xeogaming, were used to whatever Xeo throws out as us... Originally posted by DSM [added] Hold on, you just said that you will try to help, and your gonna know people wont listen? Thats making an assumption...[/added] And Finally, How in the world am I not listening to you? Diddnt I tell you that one time you IMed me that I dont know how to unblock users on Trillian? If you want to contact me, PM me or get on your other SN that you were talking to me with while you helped me on my layout... Im sure Kaijin is going to come on here like he did for Tamarin and close this, while doing so making explaniations on... Originally posted by Kaijin Like I said on an old post, im changing my layout to your standard just to make you happy...So quit wining. Dont judge people on theyre layout...Its the post that matters! Edit: Hmm...Just noticed this... Originally posted by Xeo Ok, Understandable...But im not going to ask True to make me a new layout, im sure shes tierd of it. And honestly, im a little tierd of people complaining about layouts as much as shes prolly tierd about people bitching about HER layouts are unfair to her...So by Xeo's request (And soon to be announcement about layouts) I will gladly make a new layout... Edit1 and 2: Added a couple of thoughts Edit3: Typo Virus |
| DSMagnum Posts: 61/368 |
Originally posted by Sajin of the Gorotto Sea First off, you stole my link. Second off, I've IMed you to improve it a little, but it still blows. I mean it got better, but it blows again. Another thing, the purpose of a layout is not to have it blocked by every single user. If your layout fails, then what's the purpose of having it? I'm not going to block the layouts because that would take about an hour to get every suck one and then to fix them would take about 4 maybe 5 hours. Seriously, don't tell us to block your layout if it sucks hard and no one likes it. Another things, your layout was too small for that post. I'm simply not going to block layouts because they allow me to know who the post was by easier. Really, when you get a whole bunch of people complaining about your layout, just change it. Oh, and another thing, your layout doesn't HAVE to have a image in the background. So many of them do and you make it so that the post area has to scroll to fit the text without the image repeating. Maybe try a larger text area with a background that is transparent. Another thing on the PMing, they're just gonna say the second thing, block it if you don't like it. I believe it's about time we got rid of some of these scrollbar, lower left hand corner layouts. See, with one as simple as mine, Zim's, or Sion's, the text area simply increases in size without affecting the background. If you want to use a background, choose one that can repeat with and doesn't look bad. Really, fix the layouts or get rid of them. You've gotten so many complaints and all you've said is block them. Well, screw that, if they don't get better, I'm simply just going to start ignoring your post. If your layout blows, I'm not responding to you. I'll try and help you, but you won't listen. I'm just gonna stop. Look at this and if your layout falls under any of those areas, it fails. That person has a point. The most important part of a post is the text so you shouldn't have layouts that make the text only take up about 25% of the post area. Read all of that and learn from it. If you find that to be crap and don't wish to follow it or even read it, you suck. |
| True Flight Posts: 1604/5245 |
 How many times have I seen threads like these. You know what? If you hate the layouts so much block em. I've been discussing with myself for a change. It might be one like Xeo's. I got the basic text to it because of him. Thankies and it's going to have Zelos on it. |
| Stitch Posts: 1072/2785 |
Awesomely cool, Mr. The Xeo, but I like my crappy layout for the moment. Maybe, I'll change it to suit another mood. But, for the meantime, I quite content with my text box, it's black background, it's scroll bar, and pixelated Zabuza.
Still...um...I forgot. |
| Xeoman Posts: 3186/11757 |
Ah, this reminds me. I plan on giving away my layout (basically) in hope that people may switch over to my layout's style (full width, etc).
We've gotten this criticism over, and over, and over again. And although I've never really done anything about it, I'm sure everyone know's I'm not a fan of most of the layouts here myself. I just honestly do not like layouts that use scrollbars, and are "boxes" that don't take up the entire header and signature. It's just kind of a pain to read. So I'll make that thread soon, and basically give away my CSS layout. It can be easily modified, so I hope people like that idea. |
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