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Shuyin
Posts: 1738/1858
Lucas and ZSS are still fun as ever to play with. A lot of people haven't played ZSS so I often have the advantage.

So.....when can we play online? If anyone still plays that is.....
Bitmap
Posts: 5770/7838
I know this is a huge bump, but I finally started getting serious playing this.

I have a couple of friends who are honestly hard core playing this game / Series, and so finally we signed up for a tournament at PNT (Play N Trade).

After experimenting with multiple characters, I got ALOT of praise for being honestly great with Ike. I wanted to be great with Snake, but Ike just stuck with me, and I am creatively fast with him; his speed isnt something to brag about, but I learned to make him a little faster than he already is with his moves.

No, I am not talking about his > B charge move, More like his Tech Shield / Down A, Canceling his A move twice and immedietly hitting A makes him do a move quite smilar with Gannon's Grabbing tech, throw, and Grabbing multiple times, cept he moves extremely fast with Ike.

I actually think that Ike was made justice in this, despite his speed, and his learning curve, he is actually a great character to play as.

Only thing I diddnt like was his charging moves, only time those are good is with Items, which I have learned not to play with.
Shuyin
Posts: 1680/1858
Originally posted by Cairoi
Originally posted by Shuyin
This game is far more balanced than the last one.

....Snake's a beast though. And the Ice climbers are broken as hell.


Snake or Ice Climbers are not THAT good. Snake is much better than Ice Climbers, at least from what I've seen. The whole desynching strategy is great, but I've been able to best it when it's used each time.


The only weakness Snake has is his recovery makes him an easy target. Other than that he's a fast powerhouse that doesn't ever seem to die. He's a big pick at tournaments because he's easy to abuse. He's very fun to play as because everyone has their own strategies with him. However I feel like he's going to be the next over-picked high tier character, so I probably won't main him.

I've played an EXTREMELY good Ice Climbers. They have around 8 different ways to chain grab practically everyone. You can chain grab people across the stage, hold them with Popo, then spike them with Nana. At any percent above 100 you can hold them with Popo and charge up a smash with Nana. And Popo isn't terrible by himself.
Cairoi
Posts: 2945/3807
Originally posted by Shuyin
This game is far more balanced than the last one.

....Snake's a beast though. And the Ice climbers are broken as hell.


Snake or Ice Climbers are not THAT good. Snake is much better than Ice Climbers, at least from what I've seen. The whole desynching strategy is great, but I've been able to best it when it's used each time.
Shuyin
Posts: 1678/1858
This game is far more balanced than the last one.

....Snake's a beast though. And the Ice climbers are broken as hell.
天国JOE
Posts: 2105/2999
I play it periodically, but I haven't been playing many games period, so yeah.

I still think it's absolutely awesome, though.
Cairoi
Posts: 2906/3807
Dude, playing this constitutes a considerable portion of my afternoon every day.

My bests are Luigi, Pit, and Marth. Far Cry from who I started with.
Shuyin
Posts: 1674/1858
I think I have an addiction....

Does anyone still play this besides me? This thread kind of died.

I seriously cannot get enough of this game. I'm a beast with ZSS and my Lucas/Falcon/Falco are pretty darn mean.

Has anyone picked up Wolf. I'm focusing on getting good with him. As long as I stay a good boy and keep to the stage, I can usually do pretty well. However, I tend to get greedy and fly off the stage like I'm C.falcon to try to meteor people.......and end up never coming back. I swear Wolf has the shittiest recovery. ESPECIALLY on stages you can get trapped beneath.
Xeoman
Posts: 7186/11751
I still haven't really tried online at home ... but did play a bit at a friends. It was incredibly laggy, but we played team battles only (I hear the other optino isn't as laggy?).

I'll have to get online soon though and add my friend code up here.

Lately my friends and I have been playing pretty much purely custom made maps that are somewhat "enclosed" with a few openings here and there on the sides, with percents set to 300% and the damage ratio at 2.0. It's actually extremely fun, but hard to explain the levels we've made. Imagine a Pyramid or something where the fighting is all inside and there's one opening on each side in the middle of the pyramid or so, with soccer balls, green shells, and bumpers the stuff is crazy fun. You'll be flying all over and basically you just have to be lucky to knock people out of those little openings. You can place spikes at the base on the top to prevent people from hanging out up there (since the game will spawn them there), so they'll be forced to go in. It's epic.
Shuyin
Posts: 1672/1858
....I want to punch every Meta Knight player in the face. =)

He's not difficult, just annoying.

How is everyone fairing? Does ANYONE get online? I've yet to run into any of you. =(
天国JOE
Posts: 2076/2999
When you charge up his Down+B juuuust right, they're toast.
Xeoman
Posts: 7154/11751
I actually like Sheik a lot. I'm glad her Smash is the same as Zelda's and they replaced her Up+B jump with something basically just like Zelda's. In the end though, Zelda is the real beast.

Kirby is definitely awesome again too. He was one of the best in the original, then sucked in Melee, and now he's great again. His down B is indeed a heavy hit.

Toon Link seems good too. I didn't care for Young Link in Melee, but Toon Link seems a little more fun to use. He sure can jump high.

As for DeDeDe, I'd say his over+A is probably one of the most powerful attacks in the game, lol. Deadly.
Shuyin
Posts: 1667/1858
I haven't really used him much. But I noticed Kirby is a beast now. His down B can kill at decent percentages and he can kill people before they reach 100% damage. He's waaay better than he was in melee.

They castrated Sheik. It's sad how hard it is to kill people with her.
天国JOE
Posts: 2075/2999
Pikachu got mega buffs from what I've seen. His side-A is longer and more stronger, and his Thunder is really strong now instead of just moderately strong.

Toon Link is awesome to play as in every single way, and I've been using more Marth and Zelda (not so much Sheik). Both are great, and pretty much have 100% KO Final Smashes (Marth is literally 100%, unless they hit a roof or something). Marth in white armor ftw.

I've gotten to get good with everyone, I can win with everyone at least. DeDeDe can be a powerhouse, it's just a shame his Final Smash is so easily avoidable on some maps. xP
Xeoman
Posts: 7153/11751
Yeah, instead of using him Ike is all around better and practically just as powerful with more moves. Ganondorf is pretty limited, still fun to use though.
Shuyin
Posts: 1666/1858
I enjoyed playing with Ganondorf in the last one. I feel the changes that were made to him slightly cripple him. He kind of gets the short of the stick out of the power characters. Ike and bowser have super armor when they do certain attacks which prevents them from budging when they take damage. Ganondorf doesn't have any of these.

But his choke slam is so sexy that I can forgive him.
Xeoman
Posts: 7151/11751
Yeah, I can say that for Ganondorf and Donkey Kong. Didn't care for them that much in Melee, but now they're fun to use.
Cairoi
Posts: 2883/3807
His Smash is amazing! It's not directly powerful, like Link's or Sonic's, but use it correctly and it's one of the most effective Smashes in 1 on 1 fights.

On the whole Ganondorf subject, I think he's gotten so much better. He's one of the few characters I can keep on the field even when I'm in the 100 percentiles.

Captain Falcon is strange. He's gotten better in some ways, and in other ways not so much.

Anyone else notice that the slow characters have gotten a lot better? The slow characters have gotten a lot heavier to go with their speed, and it makes them a lot harder to kill.
Xeoman
Posts: 7143/11751
I like Luigi a lot myself, I just wish his Smash was better/different.
Cairoi
Posts: 2881/3807
Alright, shit's changed for me.

My new Top 5:
1. Snake (still, I just love him too much)
2. Toon Link
3. Fox/Wolf (exchangeable)
4. Ike
5. Luigi

Toon Link is just so much fun to play as. I really enjoy the way Fox plays now, how he's not the speed champion fag he was in Melee, and Wolf is just a quirky powerhouse version of him that's badass. Snake and Ike remain awesome to me, and I always somewhat enjoyed Luigi.
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