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| Bitmap Posts: 705/7838 |
Not exactly, its just some people dont have much respect in terms of religion on here than others...Im not quite fond of alot of things in this world...Hell, thats just the world nowadays, people think differently...and thats what makes us unique...but thats getting off the point. What really matters is if this case will be settled or not.
Im sure the judge will just laugh all of this off...utter bullcrap if you ask me |
| Shuyin Posts: 738/1858 |
Honestly I think the case should be ruled out. I'm agnostic so I'm probably as unbiased as you possible can get. I don't see how one can prove the other wrong in this day and age.
This is basically a ' your religion is wrong' debate. |
| Astrophel Posts: 750/2724 |
A general irrelevant statement. |
| Bitmap Posts: 693/7838 |
Dude...why are you acting negative? I was just making a general statement...
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| Astrophel Posts: 749/2724 |
Originally posted by Sajin GorottoOriginally posted by Tamarin CalanisOriginally posted by Sajin Gorotto "doing my history"? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Nice way to try to cover up the error, but the article isn't even related to the US, which completely voids your statement's relation to the subject. Honestly, if you're going to try to cover up your mistake, do so in a better way that doesn't make me laugh. |
| Savedox Posts: 535/1567 |
Well the thing is that even if they outlaw it there is no way they can stop it, sure they can say if you are caught doing whatever you will be arrested yada, yada, yada. But in truth there will be everyone still doing it because that's what they believe. |
| Bitmap Posts: 688/7838 |
Originally posted by Tamarin CalanisOriginally posted by Sajin Gorotto Hmm, I wouldent post anything here if I diddnt...=.= Originally posted by Katana Meh, its just usually I read alot of things on here saying "Christians did this bad, and Christians did that bad" thing on here. I just dont actually think people would take me seriously because of my faith, thats all...but you made a good point. Im just scared to put something down on here without having SOMEONE on here ripping my head off about "What Christians have done" when I havent done anything...so why rip MY head off? And Tamarin, I was making a general statement, a.k.a doing my history...whoops? Hmph, I also heard alot about this during church, however I heard multiple accounts from the "Closed Minded" people who go there, saying they are taking Jesus from America and everything ( Which is literally impossiable). I had to keep the record straight within my relatives and everything...u.u;;; Bah, its just one thing or another nowadays... Edit: There was a inside joke after the middle finger action...forgot to put a space Edit2: Had to quote Katana Edit3: had to get rid of the joke....might have been considered "Flaming" or something... |
| Katana Posts: 671/3649 |
Oh... **blushes**
Teehee. Hey, that just might work though...  |
| Rogue Posts: 932/11918 |
Originally posted by Katana Hehe. It's a a reference to Miracle on 34th Street. They proved Chris Kringle was Santa Claus by showing that the US postal service acknowledged that he was Santa Claus by forwarding all the mail that was being sent to Santa, at the North Pole, to Chris Kringle at the court house. With the postal service, a government-run operation, acknowledging him as Santa, it was enough to prove that he was who he claimed to be. |
| Katana Posts: 660/3649 |
Originally posted by Rogue **blinks** Is there a follow up article on this? :p |
| Rogue Posts: 930/11918 |
I think the bigger argument the plaintiff could address and possibly stand a better chance at winning would be suing for the priest conning people into believing Christ is the son of God, and not simply the existence of the man.
Then again, if you can prove and win in a fair argument that Christ did not exist at all, that takes down that whole mole hill completely. Upon showing a friend the article, she made the remark, "I think I remember this story, don't they prove the existance of Jesus by having his mail delivered to the court house?"  |
| Astrophel Posts: 747/2724 |
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto Except this is about Italy. Whoops? Okay, raise your hand everyone that actually read the article.  |
| Katana Posts: 653/3649 |
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto Sajin I just need to point out that I find that generalization rather offensive. You made a point, supported it, and did it in a very respectful manner. That's all that matters. There just may be some who aren't willing to listen, but you're not talking to them, you're talking to those who listen, so no need to say something like that. Besides, it doesn't make your point as strong when you start off saying something like that. :p Anyways, back on topic. I do see what you mean Sajin, Christianity should NOT be forced. NO religion should be. However, people seem to get so caught up in seeing how certain things are being forced to believe certain things...it's just as wrong forcing people NOT to believe something. |
| Bitmap Posts: 680/7838 |
Ok, as we all know by now. I am a Christian...so of course im going to have to say a few things...though I also understand alot of people on this board really wont care WHAT i say because of my relationship with Jesus...but after reading this...im sorry but im going to state a few things.
First of all, after reading the entire article, I now know that the entire court case is retarded as well as pointless. This country was founded by puritans, people who believed to worship Jesus Christ in their own way. Though they were later outlawed by their own country, they still believed that Jesus died for our sins on the cross ( From back then ) 1700 years ago. Then people started blaming Christians for the simple right of freedom of Religion. Then you have all of these "False Prophits" and "Bible Pushers" walking around this world that give Christians a terriable name. As mentioned in my profile *Please read also* Christianaty should not be enforced into other people's lives, it is our job to open the door for people...as well as do the things Jesus did and spread his Word. *Now for religious beliefs, im going to stop here, PM me if you wish to learn in a respectable way on my relationship....but for everyone's respect, im not saying anything unless you ask me...* Thats just that...I find the whole case seriously stupid and offensive...but thats just life, theyre going to be people who are going to offend you... |
| geeogree Posts: 130/246 |
uhm.... I didn't know this was still a debate. Jesus lived. And he died. There is evidence in historical writings (non-biblical "pagan" writings) that Jesus was a real person. Christian and non-Christian scholars both agree that a man named Jesus lived in the time period that the Bible says. They don't agree on what he did while he was alive (only the Bible and gnostic writings tell anything about his life) or all the circumstances surrounding his death, but there isn't much debate on whether he lived.
Seems like a pointless attempt at attacking the Catholic Church |
| Makura Posts: 743/1555 |
I wasn't trying ot start and arguement, Avatar. You're right, he does have justification ofr taking it to court. My point was that it should not have been makde such a big deal. I mean, is that guy really going to make a difference by harping on someone else's religion. If you ask me, and i know that no one did, it just seem like this guy has no tolernace for any religion but his own. |
| avatar of law Posts: 299/486 |
well... the case was about some guy suing a priest who writes for a parish newspaper. and...."Cascioli says Righi, and by extension the whole Church, broke two Italian laws. The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona," or impersonation."
so yeah... how hard is this really... it's about those two laws. one guy is saying that the other is making money by conning people into believing in jesus. so now he has to prove that jesus exists in order for his money making to be legal. it's not really about faith, but more about the laws. i'm not making sense, am i? |
| Makura Posts: 737/1555 |
Ahem..I did read the article. What does Italian Law have to do with faith in Jesus Christ? What outcome could possibly come of this court case? I think you should re-think your whatnot. |
| avatar of law Posts: 298/486 |
Originally posted by Makura well the thing is, you should read the article.. it has merits of why it should be in court, according to italian laws and whatnot |
| Makura Posts: 731/1555 |
The bottom line, is that this should have never been taken to court. Either you believe he existed or not. Why do you have to prove it to the whole world. It's a litle thing called faith and I don't think it's meant to be pushed upon others. My soul hurts. |
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