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| Shuyin Posts: 76/1858 |
I'm sorry to hear that. I know sympathy is the last thing you want right now.
I hope you find a balance where you can still be friends. | |
| Kaijin Surohm Posts: 199/1852 |
Beowulf, just leave this theard. All I asked for was a simple yes or no, and all you've managed to do was complicate things by going off subject about both Martin Luther AND Hitler.
I don't need a fucking history lesson. I just ask a simple fucking question. I ternimated the friendship with her. Just looking at her, or just listening to her caused me more pain then just a simple breakup up of a friendship. | |
| Rauni Posts: 118/1351 |
Originally posted by Shuyin SO!? There is alway a answer to nearly everything!!! Look, if thing look hopeless for you, you might give it up. But I don't. I continue to be stubborn until to the very end. Hey, I even got few dreams I didn't accomplished yet, but it STILL worth it by going as far as I can. And Hilter was a manic person too... Look, his dreams was to kill and rules over the "world" while some of US had a dream that we need to complete our goals. Hilters pissed us off and our dreams was to kill him and try to balance the world again and so we did! We didn't even stand by and say: "Oh look, Hilter is going to fulfilled his dream. Let's us be happy for him!" while he is killing INNOCENT PEOPLE! Heck, some of us have dreams about being a "hero" so guess what? They are! And does it really matter if he love her and she love another man? Look, how about this!? If she doesn't feel happy with her marriage, and only felt Kaijin could be around then dude, this would be enough. Hey, I have to go through seeing my cousins going to get marry some guy I don't even know much about and I didn't want to go in the first place. But I did because I FELT SHE WOULD MORE HAPPY IF I WAS THERE FOR HER! Dreams can be broken, because only people sacrifice their to make themselves and other people happy. Plus, when you do things that worth your dreams, there may be small sacifices to pay but it pretty damn worth awhile. And Shuyin, you obvisiously have a low self-esteem. No offense, man... but you give up too fast. You should know cowards alway get low self-esteem and when people judge them by other opinions, you are holding damn responsible for that person. "Give it up, Kaijin. Dreams are never achieveable." No, Kaijin. Find a damn way. It doesn't have to be a relationship break, or tell her to marry you instead. JUST find a way to make yourself more confidence because of what YOU CAN DO, not what everyone tell you to do. Otherwise, you WILL NEVER feel good about yourself. How do I know? Because I took Motive Psychology and got a A for a overall grades (7 Habits for a Highly Effective Teenagers, if you want to know). Kaijin, give out YOUR idea, and don't judge yourself when people think your dreams are alway hopeless. You got a pretty good dreams going there and it is YOUR CHOICE to decide whenether you like it or there is another dream going on there. Most of all, everyone is entitle to do what they want, Kaijin. Not do as other people say. | |
| Shuyin Posts: 74/1858 |
Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis Like I said, this being deep thing isn't working out for you. Just because you have a dream, doesn't make it an appropriate decision to try to make it come true. Hitler had a dream, and he followed through with it. See where i'm going with this? If Kaijin "stands up for himself" as you say. It's just going to create more problems. There will be a rift in their friendship. It will make her uncomfortable, and she may grow distant. There's always the chance she won't, but it will still be in the back of her mind. I'm sure Kaijin doesn't want to risk their friendship over something like this. He already stated that she looks at him as a friend and nothing more. What good will come of telling her he wants to be with her? Kaijin, I'm sure you know what you need to do. I know how it feels to want someone you can't have. Sometimes you just have to let things go. | |
| Truth/Serum Posts: 19/185 |
I think at this point, I would take my vote, and say you should give up the dream. You really don't seem to be getting anything out of it, not even motivation for anything else, so it's not doing you any good, just harm. So let it go if you decide that's best. I don't think I have anything else to tell you. | |
| Rauni Posts: 117/1351 |
Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis Wtf? Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream was equality between races. Not dreaming on being with an engaged women. You're trying to be sentimental and its failing. Not really. A dream is a dream. It can be unrealistic at some points so it doesn't have to be the same. Heck, what Kaijin is dreaming is being with a engaged woman. Now it is unrealistic if he doesn't do a crap about just like if Martin Luther King Jr. haven't spoke out on how he feel. Martin STOOD up to show that he wasn't afraid, not even a single bits because HE choose to what he think is right.. Now Kaijin has a choice to make for himself. If he feel that he want to be with her, then by all mean, let himself stand up for himself. And if he doesn't, then hope that he will bear this weak behavior or being afraid forever. In my opinion, Kaijin should do what he think is the best, regardless of his dream or not. (Plus, Kaijin, I suggest you should DO IT because if you don't, Low self-esteem is what you are going to get.) (And if she was hot, I would go for her!  Don't hit me, Kaijin.) | |
| Shuyin Posts: 73/1858 |
Originally posted by Kaijin I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to insult you. I was a bit overly blunt. Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis Wtf? Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream was equality between races. Not dreaming on being with an engaged women. You're trying to be sentimental and its failing. | |
| Rauni Posts: 112/1351 |
Originally posted by Kaijin *Scream in native language and then afterward, slap himself.* Then you could just say that (I screwed up on the Engaged part but the age part will work)! How long she got until she is married? Plus, what if you got some information like her soon-to-be husband die or just found out that she was eager to be with you before the wedding starts? (Sorry, this just change my whole point of views.) Or try to fake something and make yourself look more heroic or show that you need someone as caring as her... But the point is... think about it. If she getting married, then there is alot of reasons why she is getting married. Don't mess with someone's else chance. Give yourself another chance to see someone you really like or someone who may have the same feeling for you. You can't expect to get everything, right Kaijin? Just give it a time to think and feel what you think it is the best for you and for her. | |
| Kaijin Surohm Posts: 196/1852 |
o.O
1) Engaged means To Be Married. She isn't married. 2) She's barly 6 months older then I am. (She JUST turned 18) | |
| Rauni Posts: 110/1351 |
And didn't I once told you, Kaijin:
Love and fear can't exist together. If we must choose from one another, it would be best to be feared than to love. Now your probably will not relize it, but if you desire love so much, you will eventually break down once something else take place. Look at you! You are about 17 years old, looking at a engaged woman and hoping to developing a better relationship... If she is completely engaged, she must be happy with her husband then. Otherwise, she might get a divorce paper, divorce his husband, wait few years until both of you get married... True, hold on your dreams speech doesn't effect much. (Don't get me wrong people, I alway have two side of being in point of argument.) But it is just as Avatar said, if you want to set a reasonable dream, make it your goals... Don't get everyone involve that could force against their will. And Shuyin, didn't Marter Luther King Jr. just gave out his "I have a dream" speech so he would give the black more respect and freedom? Saying that pretty much counter your statement. (And for some reasons, mine too. O_o) | |
| Kaijin Surohm Posts: 195/1852 |
Just wanted to point out, Shuyin, that there is a major diffrence between love, and infatuation. So yes, that insulted me to a degree, though I agree to an extent...
I'm letting this dream go. This may hurt her, but just being around her will hurt even more. Its harder to stay friends with her then to just end it all at once. | |
| Shuyin Posts: 64/1858 |
Originally posted by Xeios He already stated what his 'dream' is. I don't know why your dream is considered a spoiler. But i'll respond to it as such.
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| Spartan Posts: 209/1569 |
Kaijin you have already stated it is futile why bring yourself down with this dream. You already say its futile to bother with it Give it up...If you dont you are probably just hurting yourself in the long run. Plus there will always be someone in this planet for you Kaijin. Stay friends talk to her but just give it up.
I hate saying this cause i really think if you set up a goal or something you really want you should stick with it but under the circmestances just give it up. | |
| Xeios Posts: 417/2954 |
Hold onto it. Although I am not in the popular side of the vote, I think you should hold onto whatever this dream is. If you know it will never happen, but you like to think it will happen someday, then hold onto it. It will be worth it in the long run. This dream, just thinking about it, might force you to do better in situations that are tough. To hopefully prove yourself worthy of your dream. Just try your best to keep it, and try your best to fulfill it, you life will be much more satisfying that way. | |
| Katana Posts: 100/3649 |
I concur with Sparda to a point. Yes, dreams are pointless if that's all they're ever going to be. However, some dreams are impossible to accomplish at a certain time, such as dreams of careers or something. Like Sparda said, things don't always happen the way you want them, but sometimes a dream can help you not to make a stupid decision to prevent you from getting at least somewhere, if that makes any sense. So basically I'm agreeing with Avatar as well. Dream it up, get into it, and then turn it into a goal. But I do think that certain things need to be a dream in order to become a goal.
As far as this dream is concerned...I say that you should try and find that happy medium Kai. It's hard to find, but possible. Don't rely on it to the point that it's making you depressed, but don't exactly just give up to the point that it makes you depressed. Only because sometimes when you give up totally on one thing, it can have a chain reaction and make you give up on a lot of other things as well, due to the depression. It's hard finding the happy medium when it's something that you truly want or believe in, but that is something that you maybe can focus on instead? That way, whatever happens happens, and you can get through it and deal with it no matter what is thrown at you. If maybe sometime it happens the way you'd like it, then great! If not, then you'll be okay. If any of that makes any sense, then it should harm any more to try it. | |
| avatar of law Posts: 110/486 |
i dunno if someone already said this (tis late at night, and after this post, im leaving, and i dont wanna read what others have said. yeah, im a jerk -.-') anyways.... dreams are dreams. if you ever accomplish it, then it's not a dream, but rather a goal. so go forth and dream, but if you are truly serious about something, call it a goal. | |
| Benja Posts: 63/551 |
A dream is something that will always be on your mind even though you might have given up on it. It doesnt mean it will never happen, we live in a world that anything can happen at any given moment. Time could be your friend in this situation, so I say do not give it up, but lay low on it, until the time is right to realize the dream again. | |
| Boondock Saint Posts: 48/68 |
everyone is so negative on this board, I say stick to it.
Futile is a word invented to hold people back, If it was truley a futile dream then your mind wouldnt have let you have dreamed about it for 4 years now. At any moment in time your mind could just drop this idea if it was at all anyway impossible to come true as a safety factor so you wont wind up hurting yourself. And if you give up on her consider the regret you'll hold for the rest of your life. I dont believe Dreams get you nothing, while direct action brings you everything. Thats only distrusting your mind a true dreamer could over come any obstical thrown at him to accomplish his/her goals. Time is just a limit on imagination and wasting time truley does not exist while the coulds and couldnts are societys words of limiting your expectations and dreams. But if you really believe that a dream cant come true then well buddy it wont, doubting yourself is only creating more limitations to hold you down. | |
| Banned Posts: 148/-3459 |
I'm usually the last person to tell somebody to give up on something, but I guess I have to this time... 
when you think about it, I am the last person posting, telling you to give it up... so I guess I am the last person to tell you to give up eh? | |
| Truth/Serum Posts: 15/185 |
Sorry to hear that. I don't really know what to tell you now. | |
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