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avatar of law
Posts: 113/486		 what point exectly did you win anyways? because i didn't say anything about movie producers or scientists. i just said there's always some who has been there longer than the president. so what does that have to do with "only a few scientists knowing about gravity, et al?" you're not even pointing out faults, but rather are making them up as you go. let's save the troube of you making yourself look like a bigger jerk than you already have, and stop this.

but i will say, how would it be harder for movie producers to make up the landing than it would to actually built a real rocket? that whole logic doesn't make any sense. a fake set and a film crew would cost much less than rocket fuel. you can easily make a movie in less than a month, than you could even train a real person to use a rocket.
Astrophel
Posts: 172/2724		 If by 'win', you mean 'need to stop being an asshole', then yes. You're right. I'm not an admin anymore, but I'm sure that I'm not the only one that feels that you both need to cool it before this turns into a shitload of personal attacks.

I honestly don't care if the moon landing was fake. It doesn't have any impact on my life either way, so I see no point in thinking about it.
The Accidental Protege
Posts: 99/2641
Originally posted by Clockworkz
...Don't forget to ask our brilliant scientist guys with all the specs for a REAL rocket to the moon for informaton on gravity and atmosphere on the moon, too.."

I win.
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Posts: 112/486
Originally posted by Clockworkz
Did you even read the post? Not everyone in the 60s knew about how the gravity and near non-existant atmosphere would affect walking, jumping, flaig-raising, etc.
you did not say anything about that -.-' so dont give me this "did you even read the post" crap like im some idiot. and how would "not everyone in the 60s knew how gravity..." effect anything? not everyone, excludes scientists, who could've, but not likely, have made everything up. i know it's real, im just saying that it could have happened. the president isnt going to know about everything. he's just an elected civilian of power for four years. and how do you know what scientists were like back then? you cant say shit like that as proof. i recall there being a couple of scientists who invented a bomb that can take out an entire city before that generation, or did you not recall hiroshima or nagasaki.
The Accidental Protege
Posts: 96/2641		 Did you even read the post? Not everyone in the 60s knew about how the gravity and near non-existant atmosphere would affect walking, jumping, flaig-raising, etc. Only scientists would formulate ideas like this, and damn smart ones too. The scientists back then were not caniving scum-bags like half of ours our with their "cloned children" bullshit. This was during the Cold War, and that was factual proof that this happened, it gave us hope, and got us out of the cold war. Case closed.
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Posts: 111/486
Originally posted by Clockworkz
I'm the president, and I say, 'get cracking!"


who said anything about the prez making the whole thing up? the prez is only one guy who stays around for 4 or sometimes 8 years. there's always someone who has stayed around longer than him, and has the power to do such a thing. they could've just came to him a couple of months before they were ready to set things into motion, and asked for his approval. or perhaps not even have told him anything. why would the president be the one who makes things up?
The Accidental Protege
Posts: 95/2641		 Oh, shut up, avatar. There's genetic and biological PROOF that dinosaurs existed. Getting back on topic...
Look, the Landing was obviously NOT a fake. How the hell could they orchastrate such a charde? It would be more trouble to make the farce than it would be to just say, "Hey, scientist dudes! I'm the president, and I want you to use our missile technology to build a rocket to the moon. I'm the president, and I say, 'get cracking!'" That would make a lot more sense than saying, "Hey, independent movie producer guys! I'm the president, and I want you to create a whole farce of a moon landing in order to give the people some form of false hope during the Cold War cause I'm an ass like that! Don't forget to ask our brilliant scientist guys with all the specs for a REAL rocket to the moon for informaton on gravity and atmosphere on the moon, too. I'm the president, and I say, 'get cracking!"
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Posts: 106/486
Originally posted by Brunken Drawler
He also didn't believe that Dinosaurs walked the Earth... :-/

have you ever seen a real life dinosaur walk on earth? O.o;
Brunken Drawler
Posts: 20/30		 It might have just been an April Fool's joke. The sad thing is I once knew a guy who believed that "us landing on the moon" is a bunch of nonsense. He also didn't believe that Dinosaurs walked the Earth... :-/
Ryan
Posts: 99/1748		 um... whcih moon landing?
Pat Meth
Posts: 53/153		 Of course they wouldn't burn off the astronauts breathing oxygen-they have seperate tanks my friend.
Xeios
Posts: 311/2954		 Yes, but the oxygen inside of them is for the passengers, they wouldn't burn the oxygen people need to breath...Would they?
Pat Meth
Posts: 47/153		 Xeios, rockets come equipped with oxygen already inside of them to counteract the oxygenlessness of space.
Xeios
Posts: 280/2954		 "There's wind on the moon? Then why was the flag waving around?"
Originally posted by Xeogred...^^

Thats one thing I despise!

WHoa there is no wind on the moon. Because of the lack of a ozone layer, oxygen, and water.

The flag waved ONCE! and it was when it was lifted from a position parallel to the ground, to being vertical in a second. The quick movement could have jarred the flag out of place. Also, it could have been thrusters from the rocket that were slightly on at the time!

And if anyone wants to question anything about the moon landing, question how the thrusters, which if I am correct were using fire and fuel, burned with the lack of oxygen in space. Theoretically shouldn't they not have been able to burn?
avatar of law
Posts: 96/486		 what's everyone talking about? if it was fake, major consequences would happen in the world. the US would be the laughing stock of the entire world, and it would once again, add another straw to the camle's back for why everyone should hate the US. staging such a big hoax and tricking the world is no small matter. no one would ever trust us, and we would lose what little respect we have. millions of history books would be re-called, medals taken away, and a massive media shark attack from around the world would eat at us. you guys arent looking at the bigger picture. it's not about, so what if we made it or not, but the principle around it.
Pat Meth
Posts: 43/153
Originally posted by Pockets
The Russians paraded about forty enormous missiles through the streets of one of their largest cities. I forget which one right now. It came out about fifteen years later that all but one of them were made out of card board and paper mache. No one cares. *shrugs*


That's not a very good example, because...well, it's a funny story about the Soviet Union. It crumbled, just like everyone is saying the US won't if the moon landings were faked!
Pockets
Posts: 195/838		 The Russians paraded about forty enormous missiles through the streets of one of their largest cities. I forget which one right now. It came out about fifteen years later that all but one of them were made out of card board and paper mache. No one cares. *shrugs*
Déesse
Posts: 357/958		 If it where fake and the US came out saying it was, then probably a lot of people will be angered, annoyed and some that don't really care, but it wouldn't last. But it would just go to show how far the US government would go to "outdo" other countries.
Makura
Posts: 177/1555		 Seriously.. I don't think the world will crumble if it turns out we didn't land on the moon. It
is just amazing that we have enough evidence to prove that we can do that sort of thing.
Pockets
Posts: 190/838		 I think, based on what I've heard that it is possible we landed on the moon, and most likely we did.

But here's a question.

Why does it matter if we did back then or not? Would it make any difference whatsoever in the world today if it turns out man did not really land on the moon with the Apollo 11 mission? (it was 11 right?)

*shrugs*

I don't really care. I'm just looking forwards to where we may go in the future. The bottom of the ocean or past pluto, who knows. It'll be interesting though.
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