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Yasu
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Yes, one that posts often from an iPad that auto corrects things if you misspell them.
Cteno
Posts: 1966/3409
Originally posted by Yasu
I think if he did true what he would get and then loose because of the counter suit would just be funny.

Yasu, you're a Caucasian American who speaks English, so stop speaking like my old boss!
Yasu
Posts: 382/513
I think if he did true what he would get and then loose because of the counter suit would just be funny.
Rogue
Posts: 7212/11918
Osama's son is planning to sue the U.S.



EDIT: Since the embed doesn't appear to be working, here's a link: Link
ParaLax
Posts: 2/17
"I think people learned after this we don't like it when people take our kindness for weakness"

Sorcha Rohan: Exactly!

Yes, I'm quite sure that Bin Laden is dead.

It's a good step in the fight against terrorism.

Now to copy past a few lines of my post from a different forum about this matter about people who are against Islam:
"Because of the extremists that go against the ways of the rest, people come to the conclusion that Islam in itself is bad. This is simply not true. It is the terrorists that we must strive to stop not being prejudiced against every Islamic person that we see. "

Another Copy paste of this (because I don't feel like typing the whole thing up again ) :
It is a great thing for America/Obama. Obama now has more approval and has a good chance of getting another term (meaning he will get more time to fix the economy).

Truthfully, I'm really neither Republican nor really Democratic, but I believe that it's stupid for anyone to make up stuff that's not true concerning was presidents do. Where I'm getting this from is after Osama was killed on Fox News (Fox News = go figure) they were talking about how Bush really was responsible for Osama's death.

I feel the same way towards those conspirators who believe that Bush was behind 9/11

Stupid Politics, though it's really the radical radical republicans who have been acting like sensored, in the past few months

So yeah... that's my opinion in this matter "
True Flight
Posts: 4553/5243
Personally... I like the new military technology. I'm safer when I go through the red zone or something like that.

Elara's right... We were the only ones to drop the bomb. However... I think people learned after this we don't like it when people take our kindness for weakness. Seriously guys.. we have done a lot to help out in Iraq.. even though it seems like somethings were not done. I may be sarcastic about the hand over and all... But things are better...
Elara
Posts: 6501/9734
Israel has never detonated a nuclear bomb on anyone, let alone the Muslims. The only nation that has dropped a nuke on anyone has been America when we bombed Japan.

And yes, that does not make us look good either.
PYRATROOPER
Posts: 43/49
Originally posted by Elara
Originally posted by PYRATROOPER
Also it does not help the USA's case that they "illegally" created Israel either.
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Technically it was the British that created Israel, not the US... we just supported it. You know, since Palestine was a British protectorate at the time.

But yeah, from a purely historical standpoint the Arab Muslims have a lot of very valid reasons to dislike white Westerners because we have not really been all that kind to them.

At the same time, a lot of Arabs are actually quite happy that Bin Laden is dead because Al-Qaeda also slaughtered them by the dozens for not following the jihadist rhetoric. With that and the democratic uprisings taking place in the Middle East, there is a lot of hope that the need for terrorist groups will begin to fade. Most of them started because they wanted change and it was denied them or they were screwed over, and they turned to extremism to try and get it that way. Bin Laden's number two guy, the one they think will take over now... he joined because he had wanted Mubarak out of Egypt and couldn't get it done years ago.


Yes I know that but the USA is the one giving the billions of dollars each year in military technology and they also gave them nuclear bombs and guess who the Israeli military uses it on......................Muslims.
True Flight
Posts: 4550/5243
A lot of people are pretty happy about it. The barracks were partying like crazy that night. XD

ANYWHO. I was reading up on it seems like (from what the propaganda reads) he was wanting to attack the train systems in America on the anniversary of 9/11.
Elara
Posts: 6500/9734
Originally posted by PYRATROOPER
Also it does not help the USA's case that they "illegally" created Israel either.
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Technically it was the British that created Israel, not the US... we just supported it. You know, since Palestine was a British protectorate at the time.

But yeah, from a purely historical standpoint the Arab Muslims have a lot of very valid reasons to dislike white Westerners because we have not really been all that kind to them.

At the same time, a lot of Arabs are actually quite happy that Bin Laden is dead because Al-Qaeda also slaughtered them by the dozens for not following the jihadist rhetoric. With that and the democratic uprisings taking place in the Middle East, there is a lot of hope that the need for terrorist groups will begin to fade. Most of them started because they wanted change and it was denied them or they were screwed over, and they turned to extremism to try and get it that way. Bin Laden's number two guy, the one they think will take over now... he joined because he had wanted Mubarak out of Egypt and couldn't get it done years ago.
PYRATROOPER
Posts: 42/49
I truly have mixed feelings about this

I have a feeling the worst yet to come.

Did you know since USA invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan over 100,000 people have died. Also since the USA invaded Afghanistan membership in Al-quada and other terrorist organizations have increased by over 3000% and over 25 new organizations have been created because of it.
As a result a certain amount of Muslims view the USA and her allies as the terrorist. Also it does not help the USA's case that they "illegally" created Israel either, out of land belonging to a Islamic nation.

All of this just to get 2 guys and with it a 14+ trillion dollar debt.

The USA and her allies will NEVER win the the War on terror if we keep barking up the same tree.
天国JOE
Posts: 2916/2999
Why would they toy with his corpse? Is there a map to hidden treasure inside his body or something? Does he hold the cure for cancer?
Kaijin Surohm
Posts: 1786/1852
I personally think things are not as black and white as what we're being told.

One of the most wanted individuals in the history of the united states, and according to the reports, we took a few blood samples, and dumped the body out at sea?

Something doesn't sound right with that.

I wouldn't be surprised of the USA dumped a body double out to sea, to satisfy the Muslim law, and are currently toying with his corpse as we speak.

On the flip side, they said they dumped the body to make them happy within 24 hours, but if they took a week to tell us, and spent that time double, and triple checking to see if it was really him, THEN tossed the body, that would make more sense.

It's just I'm hearing two different things, that we had him for a week, and that we killed him an dumped him within 24 hours.


Then again, I realize how morbid this sounds, but I'm a partial fan of the idea of crucifying his corpse in the middle of Ground Zero >.>
Katana
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Originally posted by Elara
I think the biggest sign that this is for real is that if he was still alive and the President came out and said he was dead there would be a video up within a day mocking us. I think once a week or so goes by and no video turns up that it will start sinking in.

Besides, with the election next year, do you honestly think Obama would come out and say Bin Laden was dead unless he was sure of it? The backlash if it was false would destroy him.


Exactly.

And as far as the burial is concerned, if they went about it according to the Islamic rules, then good. I'd like to see more propaganda about that.

There are several things that I am concerned about. One is the backlash toward Islamic people in America. This whole situation may reignite that sort of behavior, and we would once again be no better than those who wronged us. So the notion that our government handled it with at least some respect toward Islam should hopefully knock at least some heads together.

Also, I, without a doubt believe the man is dead. Mainly for reasons Elara stated. In fact, almost entirely. But this is far from over. I was hearing bits and pieces of it Sunday night, but it didn't really hit me until I was driving home with a very good friend of mine. He's a US Marine, and I reached over, grabbed his hand as tightly as I could, and couldn't help but say (as we listened to Obama's speech on the radio.) that this was nice talk for "This shit is far from over. We're sending more of you over. More often."

This is a "war on terror." not a war on Bin Laden. Do I agree with the notion of feeling wrong to celebrate death? Sure. Am I glad he's dead though? My very human response is going to be yes. But I accept and respect the human response to challenge me on that as well. But this is far from over. We're trying to fight an ideal...
Elara
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Originally posted by Rogue
Well, see, there are no pictures. At least none have been released to the public yet, anyway.

And the body was disposed of rather quickly (supposedly following Islamic tradition), so no one can prove or disprove that it was him by burying him at sea, giving the explanation that it was so his grave would not be a shrine or gathering place for Al Qaeda members and so on.

They claim they have DNA evidence saying they're 99% sure it's him, but they don't tell you how the testing was conducted or so on.

It's just all rather unsettling.


Jewish and Islamic law both state that the dead need to be buried within 24 hours of death, I have confirmed this. Burial by sea is permissible but very rare.

I think the biggest sign that this is for real is that if he was still alive and the President came out and said he was dead there would be a video up within a day mocking us. I think once a week or so goes by and no video turns up that it will start sinking in.

Besides, with the election next year, do you honestly think Obama would come out and say Bin Laden was dead unless he was sure of it? The backlash if it was false would destroy him.
天国JOE
Posts: 2914/2999
It's all a ruse for Bin Laden's new movie "I'm Still Here"
Rogue
Posts: 7132/11918
Well, see, there are no pictures. At least none have been released to the public yet, anyway.

And the body was disposed of rather quickly (supposedly following Islamic tradition), so no one can prove or disprove that it was him by burying him at sea, giving the explanation that it was so his grave would not be a shrine or gathering place for Al Qaeda members and so on.

They claim they have DNA evidence saying they're 99% sure it's him, but they don't tell you how the testing was conducted or what have you.

It's just all rather unsettling.
Cteno
Posts: 1900/3409
Originally posted by Bitmap
Yeah, burying him at sea sounds kinda fishy

That's one helluva groaner!

Everybody keeps thinking that it's over but I'm of the opinion that it's just begun. He was just one person and anybody could fill the role that he did. The only thing accomplished is that we likely royally pissed off the remaining extremists and we should be on guard now more than ever, though everybody around me seems to think otherwise.
Elara
Posts: 6480/9734
I understand why they did it. You bury him in the ground then there is a marker, a rallying spot. You drop him in the ocean and who the hell is gonna find him except the people that know the coordinates?
Bitmap
Posts: 7026/7838
Yeah, burying him at sea sounds kinda fishy
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