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Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 04:20 PM, in You thought the Westboro Baptist Church was bad? A Church plans on burning the Koran on 9/11 Link
Looking over some of the comments thus far, there was an apparent misunderstanding. There will not be a mosque built ON Ground Zero. The proposed plan is for a Muslim community center built slightly more than two blocks from it.

Anyway, here's some light reading.


How the "ground zero mosque" fear mongering began
A viciously anti-Muslim blogger, the New York Post and the right-wing media machine: How it all went down

A group of progressive Muslim-Americans plans to build an Islamic community center two and a half blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan. They have had a mosque in the same neighborhood for many years. There's another mosque two blocks away from the site. City officials support the project. Muslims have been praying at the Pentagon, the other building hit on Sept. 11, for many years.

In short, there is no good reason that the Cordoba House project should have been a major national news story, let alone controversy. And yet it has become just that, dominating the political conversation for weeks and prompting such a backlash that, according to a new poll, nearly 7 in 10 Americans now say they oppose the project. How did the Cordoba House become so toxic, so fast?

In a story last week, the New York Times, which framed the project in a largely positive, noncontroversial light last December, argued that it was cursed from the start by "public relations missteps." But this isn't accurate. To a remarkable extent, a Salon review of the origins of the story found, the controversy was kicked up and driven by Pamela Geller, a right-wing, viciously anti-Muslim, conspiracy-mongering blogger, whose sinister portrayal of the project was embraced by Rupert Murdoch's New York Post.

Here's a timeline of how it all happened:

* Dec. 8, 2009: The Times publishes a lengthy front-page look at the Cordoba project. "We want to push back against the extremists," Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the lead organizer, is quoted as saying. Two Jewish leaders and two city officials, including the mayor's office, say they support the idea, as does the mother of a man killed on 9/11. An FBI spokesman says the imam has worked with the bureau. Besides a few third-tier right-wing blogs, including Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugs site, no one much notices the Times story.

* Dec. 21, 2009: Conservative media personality Laura Ingraham interviews Abdul Rauf's wife, Daisy Khan, while guest-hosting "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox. In hindsight, the segment is remarkable for its cordiality. "I can't find many people who really have a problem with it," Ingraham says of the Cordoba project, adding at the end of the interview, "I like what you're trying to do."

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(This segment also includes onscreen the first use that we've seen of the misnomer "ground zero mosque.") After the segment — and despite the front-page Times story — there were no news articles on the mosque for five and a half months, according to a search of the Nexis newspaper archive.

* May 6, 2010: After a unanimous vote by a New York City community board committee to approve the project, the AP runs a story. It quotes relatives of 9/11 victims (called by the reporter), who offer differing opinions. The New York Post, meanwhile, runs a story under the inaccurate headline, "Panel Approves 'WTC' Mosque." Geller is less subtle, titling her post that day, "Monster Mosque Pushes Ahead in Shadow of World Trade Center Islamic Death and Destruction." She writes on her Atlas Shrugs blog, "This is Islamic domination and expansionism. The location is no accident. Just as Al-Aqsa was built on top of the Temple in Jerusalem." (To get an idea of where Geller is coming from, she once suggested that Malcolm X was Obama's real father. Seriously.)

* May 7, 2010: Geller's group, Stop Islamization of America (SIOA), launches "Campaign Offensive: Stop the 911 Mosque!" (SIOA 's associate director is Robert Spencer, who makes his living writing and speaking about the evils of Islam.) Geller posts the names and contact information for the mayor and members of the community board, encouraging people to write. The board chair later reports getting "hundreds and hundreds" of calls and e-mails from around the world.

* May 8, 2010: Geller announces SIOA's first protest against what she calls the "911 monster mosque" for May 29. She and Spencer and several other members of the professional anti-Islam industry will attend. (She also says that the protest will mark the dark day of "May 29, 1453, [when] the Ottoman forces led by the Sultan Mehmet II broke through the Byzantine defenses against the Muslim siege of Constantinople." The outrage-peddling New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser argues in a note at the end of her column a couple of days later that "there are better places to put a mosque."

* May 13, 2010: Peyser follows up with an entire column devoted to "Mosque Madness at Ground Zero." This is a significant moment in the development of the "ground zero mosque" narrative: It's the first newspaper article that frames the project as inherently wrong and suspect, in the way that Geller has been framing it for months. Peyser in fact quotes Geller at length and promotes the anti-mosque protest of Stop Islamization of America, which Peyser describes as a "human-rights group." Peyser also reports — falsely — that Cordoba House's opening date will be Sept. 11, 2011.

Lots of opinion makers on the right read the Post, so it's not surprising that, starting that very day, the mosque story spread through the conservative — and then mainstream — media like fire through dry grass. Geller appeared on Sean Hannity's radio show. The Washington Examiner ran an outraged column about honoring the 9/11 dead. So did Investor's Business Daily. Smelling blood, the Post assigned news reporters to cover the ins and outs of the Cordoba House development daily. Fox News, the Post's television sibling, went all out.

Within a month, Rudy Giuliani had called the mosque a "desecration." Within another month, Sarah Palin had tweeted her famous "peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate" tweet. Peter King and Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty followed suit — with political reporters and television news programs dutifully covering "both sides" of the controversy.

Geller had succeeded beyond her wildest dreams.

Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 05:25 PM, in Jet Blue Employee tells Company and Soldier to shove it grabs some beers and slides to unemployment Link
That's interesting. Most of the articles and pieces about this on the news say the passenger was female, and I'd heard no mention she was a soldier.

In fact, the Port Authority hasn't even found the passenger who supposedly caused this fray yet.

Since most of the passengers on the plane who have reported their sides of the story to the media claim they saw him suddenly get upset before hitting the intercom, but didn't see how it all happened, there's suspicion he just made it all up.

I'd really like to believe it's true. So many of us have had to deal with rude, idiot customers/patrons/patients/passengers/etc, and we all want to see one of them get what's coming.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 06:31 PM, in Taking a Leave Link
Good luck with your business elsewhere, Phoenix. Hurry back.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 07:33 PM, in The person below me Link
False. There isn't even a hat in the room.

The person below me could eat garlic bread for every meal, but is now dismayed to hear that bread makes you fat.


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Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 10:53 PM, in We've all spammed Link
Chicken pox are a form of herpes. Just sayin'.

Also, alex, you're forgetting these ... cough, cough ... polls you started today.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 10:56 PM, in The person below me Link
Hah! Fa... wait.


The person below me has looked at Last Posts at least 10 times today.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 11:00 PM, in Teen kills pregnant woman and her son while trying to kill herself, is now suing their family Link
Just when I thought I had given up on humans I started watching a video that's been going around Facebook of soldiers surprise reuniting with their families and significant others. And I realize the world isn't all bad.

Still I'm sure whatever judge this lawsuit gets handed to will laugh in her face. At least that's what I hope.

Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 11:05 PM, in Soldiers surprise their families Link
Honestly, I cried.

Thank you, soldiers for your sacrifices and I hope all your homecomings are as sweet.

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Rogue
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Posted on 08-17-10 11:17 PM, in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World Link
Even on the Expendables' Facebook, when they posted this article about how the Expendables conquered yet Scott Pilgrim disappointed (quite literally a paraphrase of Entertainment Weekly's headline for the article), most of the comments were people who stated that while they liked the Expendables they felt SP was better.

SP is destined for cult film glory apparently. Some of the greatest films in the world didn't do so well in the box offices, but they live forever while the ones that often bring the most cash lay forgotten.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 12:13 AM, in Answer one, Ask one Link
Depends. If the reason is good enough that you'll one day tell your grandchildren about what you did instead, then yes, call out. If not, just go to work.


What's a the silliest thing you've ever had on your head?
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 12:17 AM, in The person below me Link
True.

The person below me has his e-mail open in another tab.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 03:51 AM, in Last Movie You Saw? Thoughts? Link
Just got back from watching "Prince of Persia" at the cheap theater.

So predictable.

It's pretty much "Aladdin" with the royal lineage conspiracy of "The Lion King," with the character design and settings from "Assassin's Creed."
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 04:17 AM, in Tila Tequila Beat up at ICP Concert Link
Well, I did see it. I just don't care about Tila Tequila.

Do people really care about MySpace whores?
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 04:23 AM, in What Are You Watching? Link
Sitting around watching the last couple episode's of the last season of "House."

It's the one about a converted gay guy trying to get married and keeps having sudden health issues when he tries to get married.

Still have the last episode to watch. The clips show a lot of Huddy action.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 05:51 AM, in Xeogaming Office - 2017 Year of the Ancient Forbidden Fruit! Link
I think I'll die now, yes?

Ah, there's that sudden pit of depression. Brought on by nothing at all this time either, I see. You're a funny little one, depression.

Perhaps now I'll laugh about absolutely nothing, read some sappy novella while listening to terrible vaudvillian music and then fall asleep.
Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 06:32 AM, in MEME: Something new every day Link
- Had a mac 'n' cheese grilled cheese sandwich
- Walked around in the bear caves that were a part of the L.A. Zoo
- Got a parking ticket
- I currently have a pocketful of buffalo/Indian head nickels and steel pennies
- Tried just about every sandwich at Quizno's in a matter of a week
- Stood in the line to go into the 99 Cents Store. A new one opened the next town over and everyone was having parties and getting stupid over it. Figured we'd see what all the fuss was about
- Tried cherry cheddar cheese
- Ate a Clark Bar and a Zagnut bar
- Had a Korean barbecue burrito (I've had the tacos and quesadilla. Figured it was time)
- Had a Japanese quesadilla
- Attended an opening at the Japanese American National Museum
- Went to a living history village I didn't like (it's in Arizona and it's DEAD)
- Ate Ćevapčići (Croatian dish)
- Went to Lummis Day celebrations in historic parts of Los Angeles
- Ate a donut packed with strawberries
- Started calling into Arizona for alcohol that isn't legal in California


Rogue
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Posted on 08-18-10 02:31 PM, in Soldiers surprise their families Link
Watching all of this, I wonder how anyone can have the heart to go to war or make others do it.

As I watched children run to their fathers, I thought on all the poor families who won't have such a surprise and will instead receive awful news. And I cried harder.
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