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Posted on 07-21-06 12:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Draken
I Really don't think we have to worry about Israel if you remember back in the 70's Israel fought off six countries for seven days. The Israelites/ Jews are the chosen people of God. Just do like Bush is doing and let them go all out. After Being enslaved by the egyptians for hundreds of years, then waliking through the desert for forty years, and being slaughtered by the Holocaust and yet they still survived. I think these people can handle lebanon.


i don't think it's Israel that needs to be worried about here...it's definitely Lebanon. Where as hundreds of Lebanese civilians have been killed, only dozens of Israelis have been killed. And it seems that the US refuses to do anything until Israel has finished off most of Lebanon, despite going on and on about promoting a ceasefire.
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Posted on 07-21-06 01:01 AM Link | Quote
how can you promise a ceasefire when the group Israel is -actually- going after is the terrorist group Hezbollah, not Lebanon.

The fighting is going to stop when those kidnapped soldiers are returned to Israel. However, I highly doubt they will be returned without a fight. Hezbollah works for Iran (works for and is funded by) and they are not going to stop just because the world wants them to. Their goal is the destruction of Israel, nothing else. This "war" won't end until then, even if the ceasefire is agreed to there will be more fighting and more terrorism in Israel unless Hezbollah is destroyed or disbanded.
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Posted on 07-21-06 01:39 AM Link | Quote
The thing about terrorist groups... they won't stop until they are satisfied. So the fight will not stop.

We should keep our noses out. It's not really our fight/business.

And Draken... Religion has little to do with who will win. There are too many religions on this board. And is too touchy a subject. So please no more of this "chosen people" stuff.
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Posted on 07-21-06 01:41 AM Link | Quote
well, as far as I know "we" have kept our noses out.

it's not like Israel needs our help to fight a couple terrorist groups.... they have the best military in the middle east.
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Posted on 07-21-06 05:17 PM Link | Quote
I thought it was in the world... I know they could kick our ass if they really wanted to.
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Posted on 07-21-06 06:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
I thought it was in the world... I know they could kick our ass if they really wanted to.


i'm almost positive that Israel does not have the best military in the world. I'm even more positive that they couldn't kick our ass. They could probably do some damage...but probably not enough to scar the entire country permanently.


(Last edited by Sparda on 07-21-06 09:29 PM)
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Posted on 07-21-06 07:04 PM Link | Quote
Only because we outnumber them. I'm sure that if each side had equal numbers and took each other on they would beat us, I mean, look at how well they've been doing on their own.
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Posted on 07-22-06 01:44 AM Link | Quote
Actually our training, and special forces are still the best in the world.

This point I'll fight. We have the strongest miltary in the world, bar none.
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Posted on 07-22-06 04:13 AM Link | Quote
we just have the largest and best funded which allows us certain advantages

but best special forces that is absolutly ridiculous
each military orginization are people who do a very specific thing and each does it very well

israelie military is designed to make swift small retrobutive strikes very efficiantly and they do and they are probably the best in the world at the military niche akin to light cavelry (i am not talking about horses people, just raids and such)

britain's SAS is generally agreed to be the top counter terrorist military special forces and this is due largely to the conflicts with the IRA throuhout the 80's and 90's

navy seals were built to go quietly and eliminate specific targets without people realizing they were involved, they exell in particular at marine to land targets (beachfront real estate)

these are just examples, most world powers have their own scary little groups that exell at their own little niches they fullfill, be it guerrilla warfare, blowing stuff up, etc.

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Posted on 07-23-06 10:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
I thought it was in the world... I know they could kick our ass if they really wanted to.


They have either the second or thir largest military, as they have mandatory service for their people. Also, if they really tried, then they couldn't conquer America, but I know that we couldn't stop them.

Oh, and again, I find myself on the side of the Israelis here, and I support them just taking out Lebanon. It has a terrorist organization, and has provoked Israel. One thing I know, if you want to live, don't mess with Israel. Their morale is probably the highest of any military, and there is no way that they will let anyone take their country.

But that's not the discussion. The war's politics are the discussion, and I think I can see how this will play out. North Korea is for the moment going to be left out. The second it bombs us, it will be wiped out. It has recently come to my knowledge that China is actually on our side n taking away the abilities of these missles, and might not be too threatened by our presence, assuming that negotiate with them before attacking.

So, NK is left out, so what happens? Simple, Iran is the answer. Iran has been developing nulear weapons, and where do you think that's going to go? America? I really doubt it. England? More doubtful. Israel? Extremely likely. They've been having this religious war for years now, and so that seems like the best place. What's more, they can get mad when we retaliate(if we need to, Israel has quite a few nuclear weapons), and hurt America's politics.

So, they way I see it, Israel will lose a city, Iran will be wiped out, and then NK will want to become involved, resulting in us just wiping them out too.
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Posted on 07-23-06 10:47 AM Link | Quote
wiping out NK= extremely high tensions with China= 95% of war with China

The fact that the US armed Japan with Patriot Missiles was bad enough, seeing as how North Korea and China hate Japan. But wiping out NK means temporary US occupation of NK, meaning the US is right next to China. I don't know about you, but if somewhere were to suddenly wipe out Canada and/or Mexico, i'd be intimidated seeing as how they are right next to the US

P.S.
No, i don't know for sure it's 95%. I'm just throwing a high number out there. lol


(Last edited by Sparda on 07-23-06 08:20 PM)
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