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Jedi Master Desroth

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Since: 08-24-04
From: Macomb

Since last post: 5022 days
Last activity: 4462 days
Posted on 11-09-05 06:28 PM Link
I know that it is done and over with, and that Beowulf dropped out, but Beowulf wishes to inform you all that Shuyin was in the wrong. Please note that he does not wish to gain the victory from Shuyin, but only to inform Shuyin and Kaijin to what was wrong.

This is what Beowulf wants to say to you all (but knows none of you will listen to him and call him a maniac and dismiss his claims...). :

Style: n - 2c. A particular manner or technique by which something is done, created, or preformed.

Stance: n - 2. A way of standing or being placed. 3.) The position of the feet of a golfer or batter preparatory to making a swing

tech-nique: n - 1. The manner in which technical details are treated or basic physical movements are used.

Look closely as you find out why stance doesn't work as you can move around. If you want to remain in the stance and attack, then you pretty much have to stand your position (hold your ground, or stand where you are) in order to remain in the stance. If you move, you move from your stance position and you will not get the stance bonus anymore.
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That is what he wishes to say. No what, may you ask, does he mean? We know Shuyin's technique was correct. There was nothing wrong with what he did, but he did forget something.

Shuyin did describe his gauntlets well, but he made a flaw in them. One that could be exploited and argued. Shuyin's description is as follows:

Hakke Gauntlets- A helpful technique that uses raw energy to cover his limbs. The energy is created from the Hakke Stance and can only be used while in the stance. This energy allows his limbs to repel weapons as if they were weapons themselves. From the sharpest sword to the bluntest bo staff, his limbs can block them all. The energy doesn't add any more power to Shuyin's normal attacks.
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Now then, let me enlighten you to this little flaw that makes a major problem. Shuyin said the Gauntlets' aura is only useable when he is in that stance (Hakke Stance). He activated them, which is good and well. He began to move, which breaks the stance.

Before you go off and cut this down, keep in mind a stance is a way of standing or being positioned. While it is true you can fight in a certain stance, in this case Shuyin has to ALWAYS return to that stance to regain the gauntlets. Read on, and I will tell you why.

Shuyin, in this instance, said that he must be in the stance to keep his gauntlets. Me and Beowulf have both agreed that while he can move and break the stance, he will loose the aura (which will dispate). Therefore, he would have to enter the stance right infront of Beowulf to make the gauntlets re-appear so he can hit Beowulf, as well as deflect Beowulfs sword.

While Shuyin's description was legal, the execution was not. Shuyin described the attack perfectly, but at the same time, worded himself into a hole.

Shuyin has to re-enter the stance in order for him to regain the Gauntlets whenever he needs them after he first activated the technique.

I share this opinion with Beowulf, but we both figured that you would pass him off as a idiot and a maniac who cant get over what happened. All Beowulf wants is for people to know the truth. He doesnt want the title from Shuyin (unless maybe a serious investigation is done and the fight is re-determined to be him as the winner. )

May I also add, Shuyin GM first by ignoring his own effect. He had 1 mess up with wording, so he had no more chances to screw up.

Thank you...


(Last edited by Jedi Master Desroth on 11-09-05 09:34 PM)
Shuyin

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Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 11-09-05 06:59 PM Link
I'm going to address a few points before I close this.

A) Shanan is a big boy. If he has something to say he can do it himself. Speaking through others will not get his point of view recognized any more than if he said it himself.

B) The stance thing has already been explained. We could argue in circles and not get anywhere.

C) I never said I left my stance. In fact, I never said my feet left the ground.

D) I blatantly stated my limbs were still glowing.

E) Regardless, Beowulf didn't lose because of that. He lost because of his blatant godmod and his attitude after being corrected. He had a second chance and he decided not to take it. If he hadn't been so pigheaded than the tournament would have lasted a lot longer.

F) Shanan lost. The tournament is over. This thread is not going to change a thing. Honestly I had no hostility during the match. All the spitefulness came from Shanan.

GG No RE

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