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Jobes

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Posted on 06-12-05 01:44 PM Link | Quote
On the History Channel,(yes I love history) journey back through time into the mysterious world of UFOs as revealed through ancient biblical texts. Through intensive reinterpretation of early religious documents, researchers believe that they have found evidence of ancient UFO activity. From Elijah's flying "chariots of fire" to Ezekiel's "wheels within wheels in the sky", and even the enigmatic aerial phenomenon leading Moses during the Exodus, we put a modern perspective on the writings of the Bible in the context of UFOs. What do you think about this topic? Is it possible for the gods we know can they really be aliens?


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geeogree

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Posted on 06-12-05 06:54 PM Link | Quote
wow.... I'll take a few minutes at some point to actually look up some of these references...

but, my own personal beliefs put UFO's into the realm of US secret planes.... and not into the "God of the Universe" realm...
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Posted on 06-12-05 09:50 PM Link | Quote
Kind of interesting. A thought I've heard and stuck with is that aliens are fallen angels. They would not be in a happy mood if they were permenantly banned from heaven and stripped of their beauty and brought into the physical world, so that would explain their cruelty of treating humans conversing with them in an attempt to misguide them. Many people working at area 51 have suffered horrible slow corrosive deaths, and aliens could have the ability to do this. I think aliens in this kind helped along people on Earth thousands of years ago, only by introducing new technology that would be their downfall.
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Posted on 06-14-05 02:26 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jobes
Is it possible for the gods we know can they really be aliens?


Have you ever seen Star Gate SG-1? The "Gods" that the Jafa (sp) serve are actually aliens with the ability to use certain technology. I've never heard anyone mention references to UFOs in the Bible. And that was on the History channel you say. Figures. Too bad I missed out, I would've liked to view it.
Jobes

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Posted on 06-14-05 03:46 PM Link | Quote
Yea it was on the history channel it was like the second or thrid time it has been in on the past two months next time it is going to be on i will pm you
geeogree

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Posted on 06-15-05 01:02 AM Link | Quote
I saw bits of it one time.... not recently if it's the same program... but it is familiar...

and just to say it again.... it sounds like a whole lot of speculation with next to no evidence...
Azen Dalin

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Posted on 06-15-05 09:23 AM Link | Quote
XD Yes...the Gods can do all sorts of miracles. I dunno about the whole, "UFOs in Biblical text" thing though. Doesn't it also mention that the Earth is the only thing God made? I'm not extremely caught up on this (mainly becuase I'm not Christian) but, I believe that the Christian God only made humanity and the Earth and that's all.
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Posted on 06-15-05 09:43 AM Link | Quote
[stares blankly].... "Creator of the Universe" what?

The Christian God didn't -just- create the Earth and humanity....

where did you possibly get that idea?
Jobes

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Posted on 06-15-05 01:14 PM Link | Quote
My theory is that an alien race that was dying was about to clone themselves but only way for this to happen was with cavemen and sent themselves to earth to keep their race alive and we evolved into the race that destroyed themselves (as you can see with todays society)
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Posted on 06-15-05 01:50 PM Link | Quote
do you have -any- proof for that theory?

cause I hate to say it... but the Bible has more credibility than your theory does
Jobes

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Posted on 06-15-05 04:33 PM Link | Quote
It is a theory not fact or law
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Posted on 06-15-05 04:38 PM Link | Quote
THe bible has very little to no actuall evidence to back it up Gee so why is the UFO idea any less credible?

I mean isn't that the defenition of a religion really? There is no real PROOF it's a matter of faith and belief right?
Azen Dalin

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Posted on 06-16-05 11:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by geeogree
[stares blankly].... "Creator of the Universe" what?

The Christian God didn't -just- create the Earth and humanity....

where did you possibly get that idea?


Okay...yes he created the Universe, but the Bible only states that he FIXED the Earth for actual LIFE to be on. Better? Not to mention, the Bible was written by a Pagan man...so I think Jobes's theory has more credibility.
Jobes

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Posted on 06-16-05 02:51 PM Link | Quote
Alright this is getting off topic. So lets try to keep it with the Title of Thread UFOs in the Bible and thanks Yuzukichi Kaze and Pockets for backing me up


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geeogree

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Posted on 06-16-05 05:47 PM Link | Quote
Written by a pagan man?

What Bible are you reading?
Azen Dalin

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Posted on 06-17-05 09:41 AM Link | Quote
The King James Version. Do some research. Anyway, Jobes is right...this is not a debate about the Bible...if you have a problem geeogree, then PM me. The debate about the Bible being written by a Pagan stops here.

And you are welcome Jobes, it just goes to show that when you know what you're talking about...it helps. I don't neccissarily agree with your theory though, I still believe that the Gods and Goddesses created the beings and the Earth and the universe...but I'm never sure if they created anyone else in the universe.

I'm sure with time it will be revealed to all of us. XD It is one of those mysteries.
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Posted on 06-17-05 03:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jobes
My theory is that an alien race that was dying was about to clone themselves but only way for this to happen was with cavemen and sent themselves to earth to keep their race alive and we evolved into the race that destroyed themselves (as you can see with todays society)


I actually have a simular idea that I entertain. I say that humanity came from Venus, and that they destroyed the planet and themselves, so their only choice was to flee. They transported themselves to Earth and destroyed what brought them there (or if they used a transporter they had nothing) and through generations forgot all their history. This proved to be a bad thing because now it is repeating itself. Venus is a planet with acid rain and incapable of supporting humans because of it's hostile acidic environment... which destroyed all traces of their civilization. Now we worry about acid rain here, and if not stopped it will be a repeat of before... only this time there is no other suitable planet to run to.

But anyways, to the topic at large. I think it is entirely plausible that UFOs could have been responsible for all those things. Notice the program did not say that aliens created everything, but that their crafts were seen as these miracles. I believe in aliens and UFOs, so I don't see how it could be impossible.

Also, we do not know what the Creator (instead of saying "God", "Gods", or "Goddesses") did anywhere else but here, so we cannot say that this was the only inhabited world.
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Posted on 06-22-05 05:46 PM Link | Quote
I'm a Christian, I know the many Bible stories well but I dont think that these specific examples are hinting that they were UFOs/Aliens. While God did have people write using parables and such...I dont think that the "Chariot of Fire" was an alien. I believe that there are aliens (dont ask me why God would make one race to be saved and another ((aliens)) to not be saved...or maybe "perfect" like adam and eve were in the begining) ....just not mentioned in the Bible.
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Posted on 06-23-05 02:24 AM Link | Quote
Well, I look at it this way. The Bible is written by humans. Perhaps the aliens have their own Bible in which they are the chosen ones... who knows.
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Posted on 06-23-05 02:34 AM Link | Quote
a comment to Elara's theory about venus....
we're already on our way to MARS XD hello new planet!
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