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Elara

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Posted on 08-18-13 11:00 PM Link | Quote
Sadly, I am sure that is along his thought processes.

I don't know if he should get death or not... I lean towards yes just because I think it sucks for Colorado taxpayers to have to support him for life in prison.
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Posted on 08-19-13 12:11 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
I don't know if he should get death or not... I lean towards yes just because I think it sucks for Colorado taxpayers to have to support him for life in prison.


Life in prison tends to actually be cheaper than death penalty. This may be an outlier on that average, though.
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Posted on 08-19-13 06:52 PM Link | Quote
The question is, if he does get the death penalty, how soon would he be executed? If it's anything like California he could die of old age on death row with premium cable and top-notch, free healthcare.

Looks like Colorado doesn't give out the death penalty often, and have executed one person since the moratorium on capital punishment was lifted in the '70s. There's three people awaiting execution (one, Nathan Dunlap, for murders committed in '96), and the ACLU keeps championing for them to have more rights and amenities (Source, for them getting exercise and sunlight).

As much as I wish I could be a true humanitarian, I don't consider people who commit heinous crimes worthy of the same rights and even MORE benefits than the average person who's managed to behave themselves and, you know, NOT kill a bunch of people.

Still, I voted to do away with the death penalty last year, when it was on the ballot for my state, because death row inmates get preferential treatment compared with the general population. I mean, in Oregon, a death row inmate attempted to procure an organ transplant (he eventually didn't get it because he didn't fit some of the criteria, which they won't publish since it would violate doctor-patient confidentiality. Still Oregon's shelling out over $120,000/year to keep him on dialysis and this was reported 10 years ago. He's still alive). Would this have gone so far if he weren't awaiting execution?
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Posted on 08-21-13 06:05 PM Link | Quote
Very good point. Since they have to ensure you live until they kill you, you get better treatment than many people outside of prison will ever get.

... That settles it. Life in prison. Bring it.
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Posted on 08-21-13 07:23 PM Link | Quote
That's not really the reason death row tends to be more expensive. It's because, when someone's life is on the line, they really, really want to make sure they're guilty, so they go through appeal after appeal, constantly going back to court and being reinvestigated, just to make sure.
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Posted on 08-31-13 09:11 PM Link | Quote
So this is going around now.



Pretty sure students have access to libraries and computer labs and the clothing is most likely just prison uniforms, but yeah, you sort of get the point when it comes to all the privileges inmates have while the rest of us get jack shit for behaving ourselves.

We can thank all the activists who've pushed for the beneficial things because anything less is cruel and unusual punishment.


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Posted on 09-09-13 12:19 PM Link | Quote
Wait, prisoners have access to the internet? Since when? I have never heard of this, and as far as I was aware, they didn't have access to that, TV, or even a library. Is that stuff at least very limited or restricted for them?

Also, forget "cruel and unusual punishment", those who do the worst really do deserve the worst. :/
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Posted on 09-09-13 01:05 PM Link | Quote
Well they need to have those things provided for them cause, you know, they can't get them themselves. And why do so many people seem to miss that prison isn't meant to be punishment, it's meant to be rehabilitation?
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Posted on 09-09-13 02:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FX
Well they need to have those things provided for them cause, you know, they can't get them themselves. And why do so many people seem to miss that prison isn't meant to be punishment, it's meant to be rehabilitation?


I can understand the healthcare stuff, but the others just seem slightly silly.

Also, right, sorry. Forgot about the rehabilitation stuff I guess it's best to just ignore what I said in the previous post.
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