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Rogue
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Posted on 07-17-11 05:35 PM Link | Quote
So I've been editing old photos all day and watching Wild West documentaries (an era I've always found extremely fascinating), and I'm realizing that most of the photos are of my boyfriend and I at various historical re-enactment events (Civil War, Renaissance faires, Old West ghost towns, Dickens Festival, Native American powwows, museums of every kind, etc).

Anyone else a massive geek for history? What's your favorite era? Favorite historical figures? Favorite stories? Favorite civilization?

I KNOW I'm not the only one like this on this forum. C'mon, out yourselves!


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Posted on 07-17-11 08:54 PM Link | Quote
Heh heh heh, well we all know that I'm a history geek. My favorite is the ancient period, mostly the Classical. I just find the architecture, science, history, and culture of the Greeks and Romans fascinating. And I really love Sparta, though all anyone ever thinks of when they hear the name is Thermopylae. Helen was Spartan by birth, women had a lot of freedom in Spartan society, and there were two kings. Gorgo was a very powerful and smart woman, and it was one of the reasons that Leonidas married her... something they don't really show in film depictions.

Also, you totally need to make a trip to Dodge City. Tis a nice place for a lover of the Wild West. Also St. Joseph, Mo for Jesse James' house and the Pony Express museum... and the riverboat casino is also fun.

<-- is also fond of the wild west.


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Posted on 07-17-11 09:11 PM Link | Quote
I.. am really bad at remembering history.. It's always fascinated me, and I love reading about it, but I can't remember names and dates for the life of me.

Since coming back from Germany, I've had this profound desire to research more and more about the Third Reich and WWII, trying to learn things that our American history books left out... Which I learned while in Germany is quite a bit!
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Posted on 07-17-11 11:42 PM Link | Quote
From what I understood I thought they didn't speak of the Third Reich in Germany if they could help it. There are a number of monographs on the subject that go into more detail, just make sure they are from respectable publishers of history (university publishers are usually quite reliable).

The whole WWI through WWII period is fascinating in European history, especially Germany. I think one of my favorite papers I wrote was on the Weimar Republic and how it was destined to fail.


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Posted on 07-18-11 08:54 PM Link | Quote
I always failed at History. But however, when it comes to Freemason History. You can read me like a book. I can tell you just about everything. All the way from the 1800's. Even historical achievements made by Freemasons.

I guess it's because I never found history to be interesting. But Freemasons were a part of history. And I always found it awesome. Especally at the time when I was Master mason at my lodge. And further so a 32 Degree Shriner / Master Mason.

But there were other history cases I was fascinated in. Like the Bible of course. But also learning about the lives of Thomas Jefferson and US presidents.

How did the battle of 1912 go? Don't ask, because I don't know and I don't care about that.
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Posted on 07-18-11 11:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bitmap


How did the battle of 1912 go? Don't ask, because I don't know and I don't care about that.


You mean the War of 1812? I know you were probably going for humor there, so I decided to bite.

That is really the thing about history... you have to find a way to get into it, and rote memorization of names and dates never works. There has to be more. I'm sure that's why you were able to learn and retain Masonic history so well, because you felt a connection.
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Posted on 07-19-11 01:58 AM Link | Quote
Elara, if I could "like" your last post, I would. haha

As for Germans not talking about the war... They're actually pretty humble about it. I went on a Third Reich tour, which was essentially a four hour crash course history lesson, walking through Munich where it all began. The Germans who knew a lot of English would actually stop and listen in for a bit. There are many, many memorials in Germany related to WWII.. Along with concentration camps, one of which I was able to go to!

History is a lot more interesting when you can explore and see the sites where the history took place. That's probably why I enjoyed learning about local history, and know so much about the founding of the place I live.
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Posted on 07-19-11 02:25 AM Link | Quote
Heh, your correction reminds me of this shirt designed specifically to bait pedants and make their heads explode: Link

Originally posted by Elara
Also, you totally need to make a trip to Dodge City. Tis a nice place for a lover of the Wild West. Also St. Joseph, Mo for Jesse James' house and the Pony Express museum... and the riverboat casino is also fun.

Yeah, I've been thinking about it. I used to have family in Kansas, my great great grandfather was a US Marshal there. I wonder if he knew Wyatt Earp or Bat Masterson.

Might also be a good excuse to visit Xeo.

I've made it to Tombstone a few times. I've been to the OK Corral, Wyatt's house, the Birdcage Theater, Boothill Cemetery, and all of the things there are to see there. It's like a mini-Disneyland for Western enthusiasts right down to having a diorama on the history of the town narrated by Vincent Price.

I'm interested in seeing Deadwood, South Dakota. Not sure how much of it is the same as Seth Bullock's time. Wyatt went up there for a little bit too.


And Bitmap, you ever hear about how most of the founding fathers were Masons? It's on our money. Pretty interesting.
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Posted on 07-19-11 07:34 AM Link | Quote
I LOVE history. Almost as much as I love science. In fact, probably just as much, considering they go soooo hand in hand. Any US history fans...Let's just say I'm REALLY lucky. I'm going down center city today actually, and I'll try to take pictures. Philadelphia PA is FULL of history(duh). My block alone can hardly get anything done on it. George Washington did SOMEthing here...I'll have to figure that one out exactly, cuz none of my neighbors knew. Just some city hall guy I spoke with once last semester. But I know there's a reason why they can't do anything new.

My house is one of those houses you may have heart of, that has no closet space, and the ones that do, are REALLY small. My home was built cirica late 17-something. I'm a decendant of the chieftess of the Deleware Indian tribe. Yeah...doing "dude" stuff is in my blood. The lady ran the show at a time when women weren't leaders like that, even with the Native Americans. Haha.

I go on tyraids all the time here (prolly makes up for my lack of posting. Haha.) so I'm gonna just stfu and come back with pictures later on.

But yeah...ALL types of history. My love for science helped with that, because when I was a kid, I nearly declared history my worst subject. Until I realized that history is just a means for invention and innovation. Evolution of knowledge. etc.
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Posted on 07-19-11 01:08 PM Link | Quote
That shirt is awesome. I also want to go to Deadwood. I've been fairly near it once years ago, but we didn't go see.

Tee hee, I remember Boot Hill. Dodge City is kinda like that if I remember... though I was a kid last time I was there so who knows what they have done in the last decade.

And yeah, it is interesting to live in a place where "history happened". There is a lot of French & Indian War stuff near me, including the George Washington trail system he took to and from Fort Pitt and other places (dear gods that man got around). And just down the road is this place called the Old Stone House, which was a roadside inn back in the 1700s that is now run by the history department at Slippery Rock University. I haven't had time to go check it out yet, but they do little reenactments and ghost tours and stuff and it sounds awesome.

There is also a place east of Pittsburgh called Old Bedford Village that I think you'd really like, Rogue. They transplanted a bunch of surviving colonial buildings and rebuilt a village where volunteers show how daily life was back then. You see blacksmiths, coopers, type setters, cooks, etc doing their work and explaining what and how they are doing it. It's really neat. They also apparently have events where they do other things like Revolutionary, French & Indian, and Civil War stuff... and a Wild West day. I think in a few weeks they are even doing something on Vietnam. Oh, and some holiday stuff.

Rogue
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Posted on 07-19-11 02:03 PM Link | Quote
That's so damn cool, Katana! About your house, neighborhood, and ancestress.

I heard from my aunt, through my dad, that we're descendants of Stephen Hopkins. I think I mentioned him in another thread, but on his way to Jamestown from England, his ship wrecked and he started a mutiny trying to get back to civilization (this shipwreck was one of Shakespeare's inspirations for The Tempest). Anyway, he made it to Jamestown, came back to England, and then went out with the Pilgrims on the Mayflower as one of "the Strangers." He kept getting in trouble for selling alcohol and whenever a Native American came to visit he was the one who housed him.

I'm also a big fan of all kinds of history. I've always been a fan of the Ancients -- Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, you know. Then of course there's the fascination with the Dark Ages and Renaissance, the ages of exploration and piracy, and so on.

Over the past few years I've become more and more fascinated with the English Romantic Period, going into the Victorian, coming into the Edwardian, and then bang... World War I. World War I doesn't get as much love as its sequel, but it's a damn interesting thing, especially with how the airplane was still something of a new invention and then here it is, this flying killing machine with larger than life pilots like the Red Baron and Eddie Rickenbacker dueling it out in them. For the anachronism geeks out there, this is the transition from steampunk into dieselpunk.

As for American history, forget about it, I'm a HUGE U.S. history nerd. There's just so much there that they either don't teach you in school or you've got to hear about in college. Seriously, before college I wouldn't have thought the Puritans to be interesting at all, but holy crap!

And you're totally right, Katana, about science and history going hand-in-hand. Our ideas about the world and universe are always shifting with history and what's considered the absolute truth now isn't always what will be right a decade from now. The world isn't flat, it isn't the center of the universe, Aurora Borealis is caused by solar winds hitting Earth's magnetic field creating charged particles that collide over high latitudes and not Brynhildr and her Valkyries bring dead warriors to the afterlife, and so on.


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Posted on 07-19-11 03:45 PM Link | Quote
I used to be really into history, but my interests have dwindled of late.

I've always found American history to be extremely boring. I've always enjoyed European History and Mythology, however.

My FAVORITE medium of history is Anthropology, so much so that almost every semester I've taken of college so far has included an Anthropology/Archaeology class. I'm also a great fan of Paleontology. <3
Rogue
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Posted on 07-19-11 04:20 PM Link | Quote
Eep, didn't see your post there, Elara. We were probably posting at the same time and you beat me to the Submit button.

Yeah, it seems like the East Coast has more (recorded) historical spots. I mean, most things on this coast are newer, or where there were old things it's been knocked over. Problem with California is many things have been destroyed through one thing or another (fires, earthquakes, general ruin, etc). There are a few things, but you've gotten find them. I mean, there's the church in downtown that was built in the late 1700s and is still in use.
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Posted on 07-19-11 05:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
Eep, didn't see your post there, Elara. We were probably posting at the same time and you beat me to the Submit button.

Yeah, it seems like the East Coast has more (recorded) historical spots. I mean, most things on this coast are newer, or where there were old things it's been knocked over. Problem with California is many things have been destroyed through one thing or another (fires, earthquakes, general ruin, etc). There are a few things, but you've gotten find them. I mean, there's the church in downtown that was built in the late 1700s and is still in use.


Don't forget urban development. I wonder how many historical sites were turned into shopping malls, apartment buildings, etc. over the years.
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Posted on 07-20-11 03:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Don't forget urban development. I wonder how many historical sites were turned into shopping malls, apartment buildings, etc. over the years.

It's kind of an interesting thing. All around the country they're finding cemeteries in the middle of parking lots. Like they were already there, and someone decided to paved the area around it and put in a strip mall.

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Posted on 07-21-11 02:18 AM Link | Quote
That is bizarre and rather disturbing... you would think that it would be more practical to move them to a different cemetery.
Rogue
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Posted on 07-21-11 02:44 AM Link | Quote
Or do what San Francisco did and unearth everyone and re-bury them in Colma.

Colma - the city with more people below the ground than above it. (Also where you can find Wyatt Earp, Emperor Norton I, and Levi Strauss ).

Anyway, here's a bunch of pictures I mentioned in the original post. This is only a few of the events I went to or took part in between March and May:
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Posted on 07-24-11 04:17 AM Link | Quote
Was never one for much history, but for some odd ready (surprise surprise) Mythology, and Computer history seem to stick the most.

Mostly about Odin, and the rest of those gods.

Fun fact for thoes who ever learned a bit about computer history, about the GUI (Graphical User Interface)

Apple was not the first company to design said featuer (with a desktop and toolbar) it was actually Xerox. That company designed a GUI, with working mouse, and Ethernet capabilities. However, at the time, the cost to produce it was rediculous (give or take $2-3k per person) so naturally, it was put on the back burners.

It took about 20 some years for Steve Jobs to find it, and re-designed it for the Macs. Thus is how Macs were made and sold.

Now only if Xerox stuck with that instead of copy machines...
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Posted on 09-13-11 02:19 PM Link | Quote
It's all history, Kaijin.

Getting ready to go museum hopping today since we're thinking about hitting up an event at the Hammer.

If I've been going out lately, it's been for one geeky thing or another (mostly museum related). The weekend before this last one a bunch of us steampunk folks had a picnic and get-together at the Griffith Observatory during one of their star parties.

Here's me with the Tesla coil they have there:


When it comes to steampunk, which in itself is historical anachronism, I've always preferred the Wild West aspects, applying it to America, as opposed to the more popular and accepted steampunk application to Victorian and Edwardian England.

Now... to stage a steampunk Civil War. The magnitude of that geekgasm would be extraordinary.
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Posted on 09-13-11 03:03 PM Link | Quote
Ironclads just got five times more awesome.

*is overwhelmed by the geekiness and passes out*
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