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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-21-11 10:01 PM Link | Quote
Well, I can't really comment too much on mormons. I had a friend who was one and I know some others who are. But to this day I can't justify or comment about them.

But if the Mormon book says that there is a heaven and believe you go there when you die. That contradicts what the bible says and to me isn't accurate.
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Posted on 07-07-11 03:38 AM Link | Quote
So, I promised that I would research more about the Mormons and Yasu, I have failed in doing so.

For starters, I first would like to apologize because a religous debate isn't what I hoped for, What I did like to see is the fact that many Christians were being deceived in their daily doctrines. And hopefully teach people who knew this sort of daily routine would and should know how things work when working with what God says in the Bible.

But I will say that my fact still stands. Whatever the book of Mormon says about going into Heaven isn't what God says in the Bible. And I even shared scriptures in the OP of this post.

However, I will say this. Which is in defense to you Yasu. The Bible has to interpret the Bible. Meaning this is what I believe:

Heaven, according to what I know from the research I have read; is basically of this world. Earth. As it has said in the Bible. It's just the Man's way of calling err...Earth. Which is heaven. Christ's earthly rule.

Now I have in the past seen Youtube videos of Mormons ruling over universes or whatnot. But again, I can't comment too much about it. I only know that from my Bible that a Godly Christan will rule over an Iron Rod. After resurrection of course (See OP for more) and that what the Bible interupts as "Iron" could mean something else. Just as the Bible said :

1 Corinthians 1:10-13: "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?"

Baptists, Evangelists, the KKK, gangs, etc. It's groups. Which leads me to believe that the whole "Iron Rod" is more poetic than literal. Which stands with my saying "You have the let the Bible Interpret the Bible"

Again, Yasu, Sorry. I'll be sure to do more research.
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Posted on 07-07-11 05:49 PM Link | Quote
This is what Mormons actually believe. It's true!




(Last edited by Nelrith on 07-07-11 05:49 PM)
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Posted on 07-09-11 02:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nelrith
This is what Mormons actually believe. It's true!




I'm not going to let this be the basic judgement on how I feel is what Mormons believe. But i'll admit that I have seen this awhile back, and to this day I still don't understand it.

There is just so much in that video that although has a lot to do with the bible; it does NOT mean what it's supposed to. People becoming Gods? Aloheim having sex with the virgin mary? I thought Aloheim was a part of the dead sea scrolls? Either that or the book of Jacob, im not sure. I mean for all I know Joseph Smith could have been the next coming for all I know or hell: One of the many prophesied in the Bible

1Co 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

So that's a kinda spin on me
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Posted on 07-09-11 06:58 AM Link | Quote
I always interpreted the gods-who-used-to-be-human thing as when you die you get your own heaven. At least, this was how it came off when I was explaining the plot to What Dreams May Come to my eighth grade Advanced English teacher who took Robin Williams having his own interpretation of paradise as Mormonism.

All the same, as far as I can tell that video takes some of the extremes of the different Mormon beliefs (since, like all religions, not all denominations believe the exact same things as each other) and mashes them up. The issue of race, for example, as a bit skewed, making it sound as though all Latter Days Saints are racist. Joseph Smith supported abolishing slavery. I think it was Bringham Young who was the first to say dark skin was the mark of Cain, following Smith's death.

Again, my apologies if my facts aren't completely straight.
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Posted on 07-09-11 08:51 PM Link | Quote
That video was slander/parody, by the way. Not to be taken seriously in the slightest sense.

E- also, Joseph Smith never claimed direct descent from Jesus Christ. That part always makes me chuckle.


(Last edited by Nelrith on 07-09-11 08:53 PM)
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Posted on 07-13-11 12:12 AM Link | Quote
You know who would be good to school me right now? Vulkar. Cause I know he was a Mormon, and I know there would be some good debated about this.

But I mean coming from a Christian, and a user who reads the bible. I have got to say that the Bible has answered a lot of my questions than having to rely on Freemasonry / Shriners itself. Enough to have me leave my local lodge! Which is saying a lot because a ton of people believe Freemasonry has a lot to do with the Bible (Which it dosent) and follows traditions as well as dead sea scroll practices (Kinda true).

But the whole Heaven and hell thing that people believe has a lot of people assbackwards. And I was deceived when I was a part of my Baptist church.

Now? I still to this day don't go to a church. Well, I do. But it's rare thanks to work. I go to True's Grandparent's church. But here lately work has me burdened and I have to work many hours. But hey, when I do I learn a lot, I follow the practice. Daily prayers with God, his blessing to avoid sin, and praising God through singing (You dont want to hear me sing.)

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Posted on 07-14-11 12:53 PM Link | Quote
I miss Vulkar... punk still hasn't written back to me.

He's not super active here, but Geeogree is also Mormon and he is very good to debate with. If all else fails, there is religioustolerance.org
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Posted on 07-14-11 03:44 PM Link | Quote
Good site, that.
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