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Stitch
Posts: 1077/2785
Bravo! An intelligent point and answer! I am pleased, and can now go to sleep.

Ruling the world as a whole is quite difficult, but may be possible if the world were treated more like a giant corporation with countries as subsidiaries rather than as a global government. Place a single ruler in the position of CEO, a board of appointed directors to help with everything--below the CEO, assigning several VPs tasks of running countries, and subdividing on down the line until every person in the entire global organization serves a purpose and is accounted for. Then, rename the planet "World Corp" or "Earth, Inc."

Just a thought...since I just became an acquired EA Games employee.
Van Rhanell
Posts: 274/337
It seems to me like not enough of us are thinking outside of the box here. You have the world, not just America. That's like, another 85% or so of the world you forgot about. It would seem to me like you wouldn't be an American citizen anymore, you'd be "The Owner Of The World". Also, too many of us are stuck in the idea that democracy is the best form of govenment, always. A shift to old-fashioned monarchy would work great with the watered down people we have all around the western world. I'd keep Japan exactly the same, since democracy with a strong people works. Africa could be another socialist experiment, it would at least be something to get their minds off Aids, or the spreading of it. And uhh, free internet, wherever, yeah that sounds good.
Xeios
Posts: 1218/2954
I meant to say it a different way, I was going to say, make it legal to eat and cook babies that would only advance the most after three full years.Eliminating half of the babies in the world with this, and then, narrow it down like that over several generations, and then kick it down to two years. Then to one year, etc...

and just a friendly notice to everyone, we're talking about the whole world here, not just the good ol usa, so bolstering defenses for 'us' would consist of preparing a defense against some sort of extra-terrestrials...
Cairoi
Posts: 1056/3807
Uhh...Xeios? It doesn't work like that. Only the babies not eaten would survive and evolve, so they'd be completly unaffected by this...

And besides, who could honestly cook babies?
Xeios
Posts: 1216/2954
Until the day you die, like when the 'Unicorn' which is really a pissed off horse finds you and engages you in some unwanted metal spike to butt anal rape. Doesn't sound fun to me, but my idea would actually be productive, and it would prove evolution.

See, If you eat so many babies, then they will eventually have to begin evolving to not be babies for so long, and then if that happens, we will have accellerated the human production which will help us build a super fast army, and if that doesn't work, then the extinction of the human race doesn't sound all too horrible.
AlpoRaggins
Posts: 549/793
Originally posted by Xeios
I would.....Take over McDonalds, and kill some babies.

I would make babies a legal export and they can be bought and consumed at will.

I would build a machine...scratch that, I would force people to build me a machine that blows up random key locations throughout the world...Can you say *presses button and deleware river explodes*

I would force Bill Gates to give me his Xbox 720, and buy all of the computer technology places, which develope parts, and have them give me all the best parts in a computor.

I would give myself a key to the city. Which city, well, I'd have to find out.


We're thinking the same things, Xeios. One man's baby is another man's burger. Combine McDonalds and baby meat, and you have a whole nother enterprise. Hell, you wouldn't even need the world after that.

But what I would do... is I would get an entire ranch of ponies, make them grow to be as big as I can get them, and when they die I'd lodge a sharpened piece of coral into their skulls. Give it a couple hundred years and the calcium from the coral would stick to the bone, and you'd have yourselves some dead unicorns to fuck up the next civilizations minds. We are the Unicorn Generation!

Or, I'd just take a real horse, one of those big, bad ass horses, and jam an iron spike into its head. Why stop there? I'd give it tons of stuff... a shoulder mounted lazer canon, and jet wings so it can fly. No, I'd breed it with an eagle somehow and make it so its just a horse with wings... yes... organic is the right way to go... pony + rhino + bird = sweet unicorn. I would then take over the world with that. Yes, the world I already own. If its my world, than I would clone an army of very soft, bloodfilled zombie men in order to wage the most awesome war ever. And then, I would plant forests wherever they died. They'd just be walking man sacks filled with blood and seeds in fact. So the world will be one bloody jungle! And then those sack-men grow in little pods on the trees! Eeeeheehee yes! And their eyes don't develope for a year so they wander the forest blind! Weeeeheee! And then... when my jungles are erected (lolz... ted...) I would then (through the magical science of cross breeding stuff that I did for my unicorn) I would make it a MAGICAL FOREST and live among the magical creatures I put in it. Until I die.
The Accidental Protege
Posts: 1172/2641
Zabuza, stop anatgonizing. Xeios, stop whining.

If I ruled the world, I'd fuund a scientific project to genetically create beautiful can girls, and I would sit high atop my throne in New Clocktopia, whilst I have my way with them all night long. Yes. I'd also force Nintendo to make Twilight Princess faster, and have Blizzard do the same with Starcraft Ghost and Starcraft 2.
Xeios
Posts: 1212/2954
I would.....Take over McDonalds, and kill some babies.

I would make babies a legal export and they can be bought and consumed at will.

I would build a machine...scratch that, I would force people to build me a machine that blows up random key locations throughout the world...Can you say *presses button and deleware river explodes*

I would force Bill Gates to give me his Xbox 720, and buy all of the computer technology places, which develope parts, and have them give me all the best parts in a computor.

I would give myself a key to the city. Which city, well, I'd have to find out.

"I never decried your idea stupid, I declared you stupid. There is a difference. And, I just noted what Elara had already deduced, you're following communist/socialist/fascist ideals. It was just an observation, that you always take as a personal attack. Is it possible to hold intelligent discussion without bringing emotion into it for you? "

-Zabuza

Hmmm, now to me that seems to be flaming, and I thought that was illegal, But I might have missed the memo where calling someone stupid wasn't against the rules of the board. Hey, I got punished for it.
Stitch
Posts: 1073/2785
Again, the misinterpretation follows. You read into my posts too much.

I never decried your idea stupid, I declared you stupid. There is a difference. And, I just noted what Elara had already deduced, you're following communist/socialist/fascist ideals. It was just an observation, that you always take as a personal attack. Is it possible to hold intelligent discussion without bringing emotion into it for you?

I've played Sid Meyer's Civilization, all version of SimCity (one word, not two), The Sims, and any other matter of simulated society. But, I also exist in society as a participating member of it, regardless of how I feel. If I'm able to function despite my insanity, then...where was my train of thought going?

Governments are governments. If you're going to ask such an open-ended question, you've got to consider that most people don't just answer blindly and move on. There are aspects to be considered, and thus far, I've only seen very few people consider almost everything possible in a government. Also, there is the factor that people exhibit free will, something that only The Sims has come close to reproducing. It's difficult to do that in Simulation.

Also, if you actually read my post, my intention of introducing the Sims was to prove that I am a hateful and destructful person, and would create entire prosperous civilizations only to destroy them. Not, to offer up the simulation software aspects as examples. If you need dumbing down, don't be afraid to ask.

Besides, I like pushing people's buttons in an intelligent manner.
Rauni
Posts: 744/1351
Originally posted by Trigger Happy Jones
I wasn't trying to get involved, I was simply discussing on why totaltarianism doesn't work, and if I did, I didn't mean too. While I was aware there was a dispute going on, I wasn't trying to pacify ya'll. I quote myself ,"I think everyone has merit", what I was trying to say is that almost everyone, including Seticus, has something, regardless of what government system we would use, that would better society as a whole. I just was sticking to the conversation at hand.


Then let me be the first to apologize if I made you feel offended then. It's part of my nature that I am usually blunt and serious. That and you can say that I got a thick layer of bone in my head.

Originally posted by Sajin, the bastard who think he can charm me...
And thats where this thread takes place, to see really who has the better outlook...Not whats a better simulation.


Sorta, but it also describe the type of person you are as well as how other people look up to you. Since Zabuza started on the simulation, I was annoyed on how Zabuza take my way of ruling the world and claim it "stupid" in his way, and then include doing a simulation in his lousy letter.

I am still letting this thread go on, unless someone decided to take this differently.
Trigger Happy Jones
Posts: 20/306
I wasn't trying to get involved, I was simply discussing on why totaltarianism doesn't work, and if I did, I didn't mean too. While I was aware there was a dispute going on, I wasn't trying to pacify ya'll. I quote myself ,"I think everyone has merit", what I was trying to say is that almost everyone, including Seticus, has something, regardless of what government system we would use, that would better society as a whole. I just was sticking to the conversation at hand.
Bitmap
Posts: 1534/7838
X.X ;;; Looks like I diddnt edit my last post fast enough...

Originally posted by Seticus
Quote by Sajin The Too-Cute-And-Charming Prince


You know it...

Cid Myers civiliation game was (In my oponion), a little better than sim-city. But however, im a little lost on how that topic got started...Are we now arguing on what game makes a more realistic way of controlling an empire?

An empire is really something that cant be controlled and simulated just yet. See theres one thing thats actually missing in those games and thats simple: Free will

Like, you never see one person taking matters into your own hands, starting a rebellion, and trying to throw you off of ruler...Thats one thing about being a ruler, you have to understand that there are people out there who might have a better way of ruling an authority...And thats where this thread takes place, to see really who has the better outlook...Not whats a better simulation



Rauni
Posts: 743/1351
Originally posted by Trigger Happy Jones
All I'm trying to say is relax, dudes.


It's also happened to be part of psychology while we are at it, something that are not found IN the "SIM"ULATION game, Zabuza. Oh, since you bring up "The Sim" and "Sim City", why won't I applies "Sid Meyer's Civilization" to this effect as well?

Sid Meyer's Civilization is even better then your simulation "Sim City" and "The Sim", seeing that you basically have to manages your country, armies, fund, and also have to develops new custom and technology. Food is also a concern, unlike your Sim City does. If many people began to hate you, your country could be in a turmoil, and even delay your scientist's researches. Religious is part of the factor as well. And your main objective to defeat your rival and/or rule the world by having more land (thus more production and power) than your enemy.

I played as Egypt Leader once and destroy American. Pray to Anubis, damn it! (I know who he is.)

As for the pyschology part:
For example, My idea of what do with the world:

- Screw the government and everything. I would enforced the 3 or 4 days work of farming (or other job) for people, to ensure that they would generates food for everyone (thus a little "payment") as well and doing so at their pace (as long as they ARE working).
- No taxes. Equal trading skill and so. Hate losing more money.
- Expects that guns, anything automatic and contains firearm will be automatically banned. Sword, axes, lances, etc. will be taken over as part of everyone protection.
- Travellers will travel at their own risk.
- Less greed, more compromise...

Actual personality:
- Want to be peaceful but if bothered often, then hell break loose.
- Doesn't want to see people abuse or "control" other people's life by having more power.
- Will do anything to defend himself, even if somone rather be cheap as hell.

Seem what I mean? And thank you, Trigger Happy, for settling the disputes but... I wouldn't mind if you try not to get involve with our affair. This is not your problem, this is between me and Zabuza. I am trying to relax, but it is obvisiously that Zabuza doesn't support the way I like my personality.

Originally posted by Sajin The Too-Cute-And-Charming Prince
Allllll right, then good luck with the people...there will be no funds to feed them, cloth them, bathe them, house them...Everything....We would all Be Nazis...

That look like Nathan Lane and Shaddow will be creeped out for days.
Bitmap
Posts: 1531/7838
Originally posted by Shaddow Flight
Originally posted by Sajin of the Gorotto Sea

Good luck with the economy...



There would be no economy. ^^


Edit: Fuck it, not going to stimulate my brainpower there....

A world goverment would be like walking on freaking egg-shells...People of different cultures and different religions coming together for a greater cause of the world?

I Dont think so...

There would be utter chaos! Do you know how many cultures there are that fight to eliminate certain races of people in this day and age? I dont know...:: Looks in Wikipedia ::

OK, couldent find any, but if the goverment in the USA leads to a world goverment...whats to stop them from making a union much like the Nazi's and the KKK started? Utter bullshit, *Deleted thought...not really needed*

Correct me if im wrong Zabuza...Im thinking I made some errors in there somehow...


Trigger Happy Jones
Posts: 17/306
I think almost everybody's ideas has merit. Seticus, Vulkar, Zabuza, and others I forgot to mention have at least a couple of excellent ideas to present. No need to present stafe here, this is just general discussion, not total debate. We all have ideas on how the world should work, and all I was trying to say is its not that simple.
Even if all the world were to become one government, The manpower neccessary to power even the most basic utilites would be astronomical. Not to mention if it was going to ethical. People aren't mindless drones, if blatant abuses of power ensues, people are going to rebel.
Free Enterprise works. It's relatively low-maintainence compared to dictatorial governments. Technology progresses faster. It's authentically superior to even the most efficient communist/socialist government. I you disagree, fine. It's your opinion. That's what made America great.
I'm not pissed off at anybody. I'm a pacifist (well not all the time) and when I get debatable, I control my anger. What I was saying that when communism starts oppressing people, they either start to fight back or become subservient to the system. Too often, the latter occurs. But some win, Like Nicaragua.

All I'm trying to say is relax, dudes.



Stitch
Posts: 1068/2785
I'd much rather institute the 13 points that Benjamin Franklin authored, and lived by:
1. Temperance: Eat not to dullness and drink not to elevation.

2. Silence: Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself. Avoid trifling conversation.

3. Order: Let all your things have their places. Let each part of your business have its time.

4. Resolution: Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve.

5. Frugality: Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself: i.e. Waste nothing.

6. Industry: Lose no time. Be always employed in something useful. Cut off all unnecessary actions.

7. Sincerity: Use no hurtful deceit. Think innocently and justly; and, if you speak, speak accordingly.

8. Justice: Wrong none, by doing injuries or omitting the benefits that are your duty.

9. Moderation: Avoid extremes. Forebear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve.

10. Cleanliness: Tolerate no uncleanness in body, clothes or habitation.

11. Chastity: Rarely use venery but for health or offspring; Never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's peace or reputation.

12. Tranquility: Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable.

13. Humility: Imitate Jesus and Socrates.

With a slight change to number 13, and anything else that makes reference to a specific deity.
Banned
Posts: 1197/-3459
Originally posted by Sajin of the Gorotto Sea

Good luck with the economy...



There would be no economy. ^^
Stitch
Posts: 1067/2785
To Seticus:

Spoken like a true politician--vague, contradictory, and confusing. But, then, that's always your nature anyway. And, your ideas still smack of something like socialism. Or, fascism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, communism, marxism, take your pick...you're headed in that direction anyway. Unless you're striving for anarchy, which hits into an oxymoronic situation since there should no control within chaos. Yet, there always is. Ooh, quantum dynamic theories.

You wanna get intellectual, bring it on, boy.

Oh, and structures in most departmental organizations do not have "leaders". They have directors. Considering my made up Sgt. Shut Dafokupp (Shut The Fuck Up, for you slower ones) is a sergeant, he seems pretty high up there--in military respects. In fact, I'm still amazed that you have the ability to burn yourself.

By the way, the Sims is a videogame as well. It's not meant to be a life simulator to the full effect of real life. It's entertainment. SimCity (all of them) is a strategic, economic, city simulator. It's purpose and design is to place you in the hands of managing a city (hence, city planner or city manager--an actual profession), and try your hand at keeping a city successful. If you fail at that, then you're not cut out to handle differing variables to keep a city running. Despite your vague and confusing "saving abuses", which I interpret to mean, that you save before you try something only to be able to load from that point anyway.

If games didn't save, we'd be in NES times again. But, once again, you are entitled to your opinion. My only objection was your telling us that we couldn't do certain things. Obviously, the supernatural is justified, but if we choose to kill off anyone that doesn't have an IQ higher than 100, so be it.

You asked, and you shall receive.
Van Rhanell
Posts: 272/337
Hmm, here's how it would work out for me:

1.sell Earth on EBay, bidding starts at Bill Gates's approximate wealth. You know people will buy it, like they do abandoned missile silos.

2.Ironically make a song about selling the- heyyy wait a minute....

3.Buy the entire U.S. military with the money that would come to me, but quickly before the new ruler would render all currency useless or do something equally as stupid/cool.

4.Make a giant mech army (in secret of course), of the likes of which have never been seen. 40 huge mechs, 77 medium ones, 144 smaller mechs, and lots of well armed infantry suits. Most people would naturally not oppose me at that point because I'm not the owner of the world.

5.Unleash a gigantic attack aimed for the world's owner, and, since giant robots are not easily matched, I'd have him seized and handing me the world's power without much opposition.

6.I'd help out pretty much eveyone rebuild their world, on the way giving Israel back to the Jews, appoint Maddox as king of America (presidents don't cut the mustard when big changes need to be made fast), and giving money to whatever will spread the word of God the way it was meant to be, love instead of force. I'd secretly write my ownership or the world on a message-in-a-bottle, throwing it in a landfill for somebody else to find. I'd probably just be a musician after that...
Rogue
Posts: 1275/11918
If I ruled the world, everything would go to hell because I'd keep putting off fixing things until later leaving it open to chaos and self-rule.

Well the world's been needing to become more self-reliant. Why not start now.
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